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Date:      Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:53:01 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Nikos Vassiliadis" <nvass@teledomenet.gr>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, Pollywog <lists-fbsd@shadypond.com>
Subject:   RE: Why is sendmail in the core of FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCKEHACAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <200709241510.30366.nvass@teledomenet.gr>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikos
> Vassiliadis
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 5:10 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: Giorgos Keramidas; Pollywog
> Subject: Re: Why is sendmail in the core of FreeBSD?
>
>
> On Saturday 22 September 2007 23:41, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > On 2007-09-22 20:12, Pollywog <lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> wrote:
> > >On Saturday 22 September 2007 19:27:36 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > >> That's because there's no such thing as a "newbie Sendmail user".
> > >> Nobody stays a newbie long enough if they configure Sendmail properly
> > >
> > > That is why I use Postfix.  I would not go from Postfix to Sendmail
> > > because it would make life difficult.
> >
> > Heh, what I wrote was supposed to be a joke, but oh well :-)
>
> You haven't been forced to administer sendmail. That's
> why you are making jokes about it. Well, I was, and it
> wasn't much fun ;)

Probably because you were forced.

I was never forced to admin sendmail and I have a lot of fun
with it, frankly.  I even ran UUCP with it for a few years.

What I find the most "unfun" part of administering a mailserver,
to be perfectly frank, is the subsidiary programs.  For example,
can anyone explain why clamav has suddenly decided to consume 70% of CPU
at about 15 seconds to scan a simple 4K message on a server I have
with a 3Ghz dual-core CPU?  I find programs like clamav, spamassassin,
dspam, mailscanner, etc. etc. to be big black boxes, with ugly
configuration files and senseless internals, but that are nevertheless
critical to handling mail on a large scale today.  Far more critical,
I might add, than the MTA and local delivery agents.

Ted




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