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Date:      Fri, 28 May 2010 21:08:10 -0700 (PDT)
From:      James Phillips <anti_spam256@yahoo.ca>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Media streaming
Message-ID:  <98236.72771.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100529005830.1FDF51065698@hub.freebsd.org>

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> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:40:14 +0100
> From: "Graeme Dargie" <arab@tangerine-army.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: Media streaming
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Sorry, DRM is an alphabet soup of "Standards" and industry consortia. I was=
 unaware of DLNA and read it as: DTLA. However, if you look at the "Overvie=
w and Vision White Paper," you will see that DTCP/IP (administered by DTLA)=
 is required for the link layer of DLNA:
http://www.dlna.org/about_us/roadmap/DLNA_Whitepaper.pdf
- page 4, Table 1

The Wikipedia page lists some software that may or may not work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Living_Network_Alliance

<SNIP!>
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> The server does not support Digital Transmission Content
> Protection:
> http://www.dtcp.com/
> "Overview" presentation:
> http://www.dtcp.com/documents/dtcp/DTCP_Overview.pdf
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> In essence, you are supposed to encrypt the video stream
> lest you copy it.
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> I am a little surprised the TV would refuse to work with an
> unencrypted stream, which is why I did not respond to your
> first post.
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> Regards,
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> James Phillips
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> Hi James
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> I said the TV was DLNA compliant, those links at the brief
> look I had appears to be the sort of encryption you would
> see on a HD signal via HDMI that would prevent you say
> recording HD content to your PVR device and then playing it
> back to a blu-ray recorder and "recording" it to disc. I had

I get the impression that DTCP is an "umbrella" DRM standard that that allo=
ws the other DRM standards to inter-operate. DTCP is administered by the Di=
gital Transmission Licensing Administrator: a consortium of five companies =
including Hitachi, Intel, Panasonic, Sony, and Toshiba.

HDMI uses another scheme called High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (=
HDCP) for encrypting the video.
http://www.digital-cp.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

DTCP will likely intervene in the step where you move the video from the PV=
R to the Blu-ray recorder.

When it comes time to record the information on the disk, a third scheme co=
mes into play: Advanced Access Content System (AACS)
http://www.aacsla.com/home
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Access_Content_System
The Wikipedia page appears to be more readable.

> done a fair bit of googling on this before posting to the
> list, it seems Sonys' implementation of DLNA is a bit
> "loose" shall we say, I have seen a lot of people having
> issues with DLNA complaint NAS devices not working with Sony
> TV`s. As I have stated in a previous post it does work with
> wmp12, but it is not elegant or the solution I want for the
> reasons I stated earlier.

I would expect wmp12 to work because Windows Vista and 7 implement DTCP, an=
d Microsoft is listed as one of the sponsors of DLNA.

Regards,

James Phillips

PS: my brain hurts reading that too :(

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> Graeme
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