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Date:      Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:19:41 -0700 (MST)
From:      John Reynolds~ <jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com>
To:        freebsd-qa@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2 
Message-ID:  <14509.43357.330200.191691@hip186.ch.intel.com>
In-Reply-To: <79206.950898990@zippy.cdrom.com>
References:  <200002181512.KAA01992@spoon.beta.com> <79206.950898990@zippy.cdrom.com>

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[ On Friday, February 18, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ]
> > it makes sense to slice it that way. Also, as far as teaching new users how
> > to install it, I _always_ show them the custom route. While this may sound 
> > harsh, its used to familarize them with all of sub-components, and 
> 
> Let's take the case someone recently reported: He went and added a
> user or two using the user configuration tool, THEN went and
> configured X and the default desktop.  Since the default desktop
> configuration writes the new skeleton files, adding the user(s) first
> means they all get the stock twm environment since the Desktop config
> tool is hardly going to go back retroactively and frob every user it
> can find on the system - that would be evil and bad even if I wanted
> to add the code to do this.  Using the Standard installation, you're
> presented with all the appropriate checklist items in the *right order*
> so you don't shoot parts of your anatomy off like this.

Yes. That someone was me. :) ... and I did fall into the trap of "custom"
install ala windud (see previous posts within the last day). I just simply did
not understand the order in which things had to be done in "Custom" install
for it to DTRT. When it "failed" (notice the quotes) I was able to do it
myself no problem, but it left me reporting an erroneous error to the list
(you could argue that sysinstall did the "right thing" or "wrong thing" either
way) ... Hopefully the (newly renamed?) "Standard" install will be more
attractive to new-comers and experienced people alike.

> Do your friends a favor, point them at the now-not-so-embarassingly-named
> Standard installation as a matter of course.  Custom installation
> is for those who both understand what they're doing and what they're
> *not* doing as a consequence of using it.  As our desktop friend proved,
> not even those who think they know the full set of "nots" can escape
> being proven wrong by Custom. :)

Yup! Easy to overcome from something as simple as putting "gnome-session" in a
.xinitrc file (*iff* you know to do that as a newbie), but it *did* bite me!

-Jr

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