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Date:      Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:32:38 +0200 (EET)
From:      Alexander Litvin <archer@lucky.net>
To:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Softupdates code not Prime Time yet.
Message-ID:  <199803112332.BAA02402@grape.carrier.kiev.ua>
In-Reply-To: <19980311195045.19668.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net>

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In article <19980311195045.19668.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> you wrote:
>> 
>> I have to echo what Julian is saying additionally if you are not prepared 
>> to give a kernel stack trace and possibly nice printfs  of kernel data
>> structures then don't try soft updates. I hate bug reports like
>> "soft update crashed my system" 8)
>> 
> Pretty much the same with the VM and NFS stuff that I have been
> working on.  Please, whenever you have problems with the kernel,
> a traceback and other such information is very useful.  Alot
> of traffic for the VM and NFS stuff happens in the background,
> where the groups don't see it...  People who know the issues
> about working on the kernel, also generally know that a statement
> about a crash without any kind of information is useless, and
> often just gets ignored.

> IF one sends the output of a panic only, without the appropriate
> portion of the namelist, the info is useless.

Sorry, but it would be much easier if it were possible to
boot stripped kernels.

> John

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