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Date:      Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:23:18 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        ady@warp.starnets.ro (Penisoara Adrian)
Cc:        current@hub.freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: UU.NET, SPAM, and Cyberpromotions (was Re: usregsite.com)
Message-ID:  <199707151723.KAA03690@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.970715092751.1216B-100000@ady.warp.starnets.ro> from "Penisoara Adrian" at Jul 15, 97 09:59:07 am

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Well, this is old...

[ ... a discussion of SPAM ensues ... ]

> On Fri, 23 May 1997, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > | Received: from 206.13.28.25
> > | 	(1Cust52.Max31.Chicago.IL.MS.UU.NET [153.35.113.180])
> > | 	by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id EAA07399;
> > | 	Thu, 8 May 1997 04:09:14 -0700 (PDT)
>
> :Received: from ken ([153.36.102.95]) by ns1.allinfosys.com
>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> :          (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11221) with SMTP id CUO296
> :          for <ady@ady.warp.starnets.ro>; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:19:35 -0500
> 
>   Now guess who's IP is that 153.36.102.95 ? If I do a rev-lookup, then
> it's "1Cust95.Max12.Detroit.MI.MS.UU.NET"; awfully close to Terry's one.

Yes.  UUnet is providing dialup ISP services for these people.

This was the recent SPAM to the FreeBSD lists, I assume...


> > I've been mail-bombed by Cyberpromotions for complaining to their

[ ... ]

> Why would they do that ? This bunch of jerks [ >:( ] is expecting everyone
> to accept their junk w/o complains and it's their last wish to get you
> rid of it.

That's precisely why they are doing it.  People pay them to do it,
it's not illegal, they do it.


> > Since then, for every intermediate host their program has used as a
> > relay to get to my host, I've made a (1 month time limited) offer of
> > free assistance in preventing use as a mail relay by all by approved
> > hosts.  I've helped 6 sites so far.
>
> Has that number been changed by now ?

21 sites, so far.


> Well, this host's MTA (as you can see it's post.office v2.0) didn't
> handle this spam; maybe we (?) should warn them...

Notify them that they need to update to Post.Office 3.2.  The 3.2
version supports SPAM filtering.

>  BTW, shouldn't sendmail/smail/etc be made SPAM proof right in the
> sources ?

Take this up with the maintainer.  There is no pat answer.  They
may be afraid of "restraint of trade" prosecution, or "racketeering"
charges under the RICO act.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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