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Date:      Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:13:00 +0200
From:      "Simon L. Nielsen" <simon@nitro.dk>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 8MB install
Message-ID:  <20030626091258.GA406@nitro.dk>
In-Reply-To: <3EFA76E4.C66C35D4@mindspring.com>
References:  <200306251557.25303.m-trade@hotpop.com> <3EF96EF8.4C4DED20@mindspring.com> <200306251210.50565.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20030625104518.GA402@nitro.dk> <3EFA76E4.C66C35D4@mindspring.com>

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On 2003.06.25 21:30:28 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> "Simon L. Nielsen" wrote:
> > On 2003.06.25 12:10:42 +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> > > FWIW, the last FreeBSD release I managed to install on an 8mb machine=
 from
> > > CD-ROM+bootfloppies was 4.1.1.
> >=20
> > Can anybody else confirm this ?  It seems like the documetation need to
> > be updated to state this.
>=20
> State what?  That you should use 4.1.1 on 8M 486 machines, if
> you intend on installing from media that require the use of a
> RAM disk for installation?
>=20
> Seems a little specialized... 8-).

Hehe yes :-). The documentation should just not indicate that it is
possible to install on 8MB, when it isn't.

Currently the FAQ says :

<FAQ>
3.5. I have only 4 MB of RAM. Can I install FreeBSD?

FreeBSD 2.1.7 was the last version of FreeBSD that could be installed on
a 4MB system. FreeBSD 2.2 and later needs at least 5MB to install on a
new system.

All versions of FreeBSD will run in 4MB of RAM, they just cannot run the
installation program in 4MB. [CUT]
</FAQ>

Which doesn't really seem to match any current reality with regards to
both CURRENT and STABLE.

> > Have anybody made any recent tests on CURRENT (and STABLE for that
> > matter) with regards to minimum RAM requirements, install and normal
> > runtime?
>=20
> Yes; about two months ago there were a couple of people who
> installed on an old 386SX.  The main issue was that they had
> to roll their own distribution from sources, specifically with
> a stripped down kernel without all the weird drivers (which is
> exactly what I talked about in my previous posting).

=46rom what I understood that test was more a test of whether it was
possible to run 5.x on a 386, not to actually find out the minium RAM
for install/run.

I think I will try to dig up my old 486 next week, and try to find the
actual requirements for a sysinstall based installation on more recent
FreeBSD versions.

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Simon L. Nielsen

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