Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:40:43 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, phk@phk.freebsd.dk, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Product management (was: Apologies) Message-ID: <20060522011043.GH48088@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20060521.182731.74695972.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <446B8E36.8050902@elischer.org> <20060518000342.GJ61448@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060521221556.GA97506@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060521.182731.74695972.imp@bsdimp.com>
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On Sunday, 21 May 2006 at 18:27:31 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>> my intention to be offensive, merely to draw attention to problems we
>> have with product management. These problems remain.
>
> The pcvt removal has been long planned.
It's the first I've heard of it. Maybe we should have an "axe
candidates" page.
In the case in point, it seems that julian's company uses it, and
potentially they'd be willing to fund its further development.
> I don't see how it points out a problem in the project.
That depends on the situation:
1. (Now). It seems that a component was slated for removal, and none
of us knew. That's a problem, especially if it's being removed
for lack of love.
2. (Then). As I said, if code is going to be removed, the "project"
(by default core) should approve it. That's too important a
decision to leave to individual committers.
> The software didn't keep pace with the development of the system,
> and the multiple video consoles got in the way of progress.
They do? How that? I find them very useful. Or do you mean pcvt
vs. syscons?
Greg
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