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Date:      Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:18:22 -0800
From:      Chuck Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
To:        Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@clara.net>
Cc:        Joe Peterson <joe@skyrush.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: "ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA" type errors with 7.0-RC1
Message-ID:  <5D6C699B-A8D2-4ACD-A9F6-5CB263A88B42@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080125210527.GA40754@voi.aagh.net>
References:  <479A0731.6020405@skyrush.com> <20080125162940.GA38494@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <479A3764.6050800@skyrush.com> <3803988D-8D18-4E89-92EA-19BF62FD2395@mac.com> <20080125210527.GA40754@voi.aagh.net>

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On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:05 PM, Thomas Hurst wrote:
>> These numbers are quite worrysome-- they should be zero or nearly  
>> so in a
>> healthy drive.
>
> No, these are perfectly reasonable for a Seagate.  I have about 12
> 7200.X's and all show the same sort of behavior.  If they're nearly  
> zero
> it's probably a sign your manufacturer isn't actually counting them
> (marketroids hate accurate SMART readings).
>
> Try graphing them as counters; with an idle disk you'll see periodic
> sawtooth patterns as the heads crawl from one side of the disk to the
> other.

SMART attributes which end with _Ct or _Count are supposed to  
increment with every event; things which end with _Rate (ie,  
Raw_Read_Error_Rate, Seek_Error_Rate) are supposed to indicate the  
frequency of such errors over time.  It would be reasonable for  
Hardware_ECC_Recovered to keep the incremental count, but not the  
other two.

I agree that minor periodic errors happen over time and are not a  
great concern, but a happy drive will show zero reallocated sectors,  
or perhaps a few over the span of a year or two, and will have a ECC  
recovered or UDMA_CRC count which is much smaller than was reported by  
Joe.

YMMV, of course...

-- 
-Chuck




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