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Date:      Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:11:32 +0800
From:      peter kok <peter@sweda.com.hk>
To:        Greg Black <gjb@comkey.com.au>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, FreeBSD Questions <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Excessive collisions on Ethernet
Message-ID:  <36B7CC74.5C09913B@sweda.com.hk>
References:  <19990131110224.I8473@freebie.lemis.com> <19990131192548.24006.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au>

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Hello

i would like to know how do you measure this collision?
thank you

Greg Black wrote:

> > In the last few days I've noticed a really high number of collisions
> > on my Ethernet.  There are only 5 machines on the network, 3 of which
> > are barely active, yet I see:
> >
> > (allegro, running 2.2.6-STABLE)
> > ed0   1500  <Link>      00.00.c0.44.a5.68 43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
> > ed0   1500  widecast      allegro         43729816    45 43861788    12 977828
>
> That's only 1.1%.
>
> > (freebie, running 4.0-CURRENT)
> > Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> > ed2   1500  <Link>      00.80.48.e6.a0.61 11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
> > ed2   1500  widecast      freebie         11976144    12 13389307     0 988340
>
> And that's only 3.9% -- it's worse than allegro, but not by a
> significant margin for the relatively small amount of traffic.
> On my Ethernet, I have machines that report 0.01%, 9.6%, 0.7%,
> 0.04% and 0.4%.  The outlier is a machine that has been up a few
> hours and was used for a large file transfer which blew its
> average out of the water -- it'll be back to about 1% as time
> goes by.
>
> > I tried an ftp from panic, copying a file of 45 MB from freebie.  The
> > transfer ran at about 1 MB/s with about 450 collisions per second on
> > the freebie side, none on the panic side.  Here are the values before
> > and after:
> >
> > freebie:
> >           Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> > before 11978350    13 13392678     0  989089
> > after  11994616    13 13424921     0 1009912
> > diff      16266     0    32243     0   20823
> >
> > panic:
> >           Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
> > before      480     0      651     1     0
> > after     32143     0    16679     1     0
> > diff      31663     0    16028     0     0
> >
> > Looking at these results (40% collision rate on freebie), it would
> > seem that something is seriously wrong in the network.  On the other
> > hand, allegro also shows a large number of collisions.  At the moment
> > I'm suspecting the (3 month old) Ethernet board in freebie, but I was
> > wondering if there were other reasons which might apply.
>
> I just did some 10 to 15 MB file transfers with NFS on my LAN (I
> don't have FTP set up), and saw collision rates ranging from 25%
> to 35% for those periods.  I'd say that was pretty normal, given
> the way that Ethernet works.  The more interesting statistics
> are the overall figures over time, and the ones you give at the
> start aren't too bad.  Yes, freebie is a bit high -- but 4%
> compared with 1% is not a big factor, especially with the fairly
> low total amount of traffic.  I'd watch it for a bit longer
> before deciding it was a real problem.  After all, if you're
> getting 1 MB/s on a 10 Mb/s LAN, you're doing pretty well :-)
>
> --
> Greg Black <gjb@acm.org>
>
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