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Date:      Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:29:21 -0500
From:      Don Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Subject:   Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <eefa2c8b0909281129y53353e71t9c216dab6039cc8@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <861vlr3pno.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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Dag-Erling, I remember you quite well as a core developer, so I don't
doubt that your knowledge of history is better than mine. Thank you
both for the corrections.

AFA pitchers of beer, it was meant as a friendly dig on an insider's
list and not meant as disrespect for Kirk's achievements, which have
far more to do with all of us being here today than I do. :D

2009/9/28 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav <des@des.no>:
> Don Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com> writes:
>> What is incorrect, Julian?
>
> Pretty much everything about the lawsuit.
>
> http://oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/kirkmck.html
> http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/USLsettlement.pdf
>
> I found the phrase "everything developed before 1970" particularly
> amusing, as it translates to approximately zero, plus or minus zero.
>
> Oh, and pretty much everything else as well.
>
> The practice of sharing source code without compensation (and the term
> "copyleft") can be traced to a hobbyist magazine that later developed
> into Dr Dobb's, and predates 3BSD (1BSD and 2BSD were only add-ons, not
> OS distributions) by about five years. =A0The first explicit discussion o=
f
> free software as such was in an article published in the July 1976 issue
> of SIGPLAN in reaction to Bill Gate's (in)famous "open letter". =A0The
> first organized F/OSS movement was, like it or not, the GNU Project
> started by Richard Stallman in 1983. =A0At that time, BSD was distributed
> only to institutions that already held an AT&T source code license. =A0Th=
e
> network stack was "open sourced" in the late eighties, the rest of the
> system in the early-to-mid nineties.
>
>> He was drinking beer by the pitcher, so I'm sure he was more
>> forthcoming than usual.
>
> I neither know nor care whether that statement is true, but it's not a
> particularly nice thing to say about anyone.
>
> DES
> --
> Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no
>



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-- Don Wilde
   " Engineering the Future "
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