Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 21:19:12 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.org>, mjacob@feral.com, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, "David E. O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/common boot.c module.c src/sys/boot/forth loader.conf src/sys/conf Makefile.alpha Makefile.i386 Makefile.pc98 kmod.mk src/share/mk bsd.own.mk Message-ID: <20000907211912.C20005@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> In-Reply-To: <67824.968356175@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 12:49:35PM -0700 References: <nik@FreeBSD.org> <67824.968356175@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 12:49:35PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > How's that conspectus coming lately, Nik? :-) I have Salvo a kick recently about that actually, which I need to follow up on. The point is not that you, or I, do all the work. The point (and in particular, the point of the conspectus stuff) was to encourage other people to feel like they could contribute, with the carrot being a committership if they were committed enough (no pun intended). The Linux folks manage it, the Perl folks manage it. . . > > Search for more professional engineers. I've done my fair share of > > You seem to be forgetting that we're volunteer driven again. The comment of yours my reply was directed at talked about paid engineers. > > Look at the Doc. Project as an example. The switch to DocBook and the > > different organisational work underlying that change was huge, which is > > The docs project is a good example of all that's best and all that's > worst in this project, actually. The switch to DocBook was an example > of the former. The actual content of the Handbook and FAQ is a good > example of the latter, and for a distressingly accurate review of just > how bad things are, read the recent review of the published Handbook > in www.bsdtoday.com. I agree, it's printed, and sat next to me. Why don't we have hordes of college kids volunteering to contribute, as Linux does? Do we want that, and if so, how do we attract it? [ On an only vaguely related note -- it doesn't help when the src/ tree goes and steals doc/ people -- I haven't forgotten you Mr Baldwin. . . ] > We shouldn't be even remotely tempted to rest on our laurels where the > Doc Project is concerned or, as Matt Jacob would probably put it, use it > as an example of effective editorial leadership. Oh, tell me about it. I was all prepared to take a six month sabbattical once FreeBSD Services ltd got off the ground, and then BSDi go and make me an offer I can't refuse. > > By requiring 'major' commits to have accompanying documentation before > > they're allowed in to the tree. > > Which, to be sadly accurate, would probably result in no major commits > going into the tree at all. Probably, not definitely. new-core could certainly extend some authority in this area, to at least see what happens. Hey ho. I'm off home (hell, it's only 9.15pm -- have a good one). N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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