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Date:      Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:58:22 -0700 
From:      Charles Randall <crandall@matchlogic.com>
To:        "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@iteration.net>, 'Mike Smith' <msmith@freebsd.org>, Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
Cc:        Mitch Collinsworth <mitch@ccmr.cornell.edu>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Extremely large (70TB) File system/server planning 
Message-ID:  <5FE9B713CCCDD311A03400508B8B3013054E3F50@bdr-xcln.is.matchlogic.com>

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Does this have to be a single filesystem?

If not, just provide a database front-end that maps some kind of resource
identifier to the filesystem name.

With that, you can span filers and/or filesystems. Seems like the only thing
that would be reasonable.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Smith [mailto:msmith@freebsd.org]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:52 PM
To: Matt Dillon
Cc: Michael C . Wu; Mitch Collinsworth; hackers@FreeBSD.ORG;
fs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Extremely large (70TB) File system/server planning 


> 
> :| > The files are accessed approximately 3 or 4 times a day on average.
> :| > Older files are archived for reference purpose and may never
> :| > be accessed after a week.
> :| 
> :| Ok, this is a start.  Now is the 70 TB the size of the active files?
> :| Or does that also include the older archived files that may never be
> :| accessed again?
> :70TB is the size of the sum of all files, access or no access.
> :(They still want to maintain accessibility even though the chances are
slim.)
...
>     This doesn't sound like something you can just throw together with
>     off-the-shelf PCs and still have something reliable to show for it.
>     You need a big honking RAID system - maybe a NetApp, maybe something
>     else.  You have to look at the filesystem and file size limitations
>     of the unit and the client(s).

You can't do this with a NetApp either; they max out at about 6TB now 
(going up to around 12 or so soon).  You might want to talk to EMC and/or 
IBM, both of whom have *extremely* large filers.

Your friend may also want to look at Traakan, who have a novel product in 
this space.

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