Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:48:35 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? Message-ID: <20140125174835.GA67191@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <52E33AA7.3080205@freebsd.org> References: <CAHcXP%2Bf6e-t--XbQPTH1goJp_CL7P=zTj5trZVWd4YZ_EsO9gw@mail.gmail.com> <52E2FA36.5080106@marino.st> <CAHcXP%2BfRDeKXjz0_sifgzeXC2dA-eDnoV5NH1yvF2D6R8JRmAg@mail.gmail.com> <52E303CB.6020304@marino.st> <CAHcXP%2Be9p2HrQ=M9HmPecMbWtXRuYPzH9kwfLGqgdrUrhvLuEA@mail.gmail.com> <52E30990.2060903@marino.st> <52E33AA7.3080205@freebsd.org>
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--gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:16:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >=20 > On 1/24/14, 4:47 PM, John Marino wrote: > > On 1/25/2014 01:36, Big Lebowski wrote: > >> I was hoping to get some discussion revealing how the work is organized > >> around ports PR, perhaps some ideas on improving them and I hoped that > >> people who can make decisions and changes would notice it and consider > >> them, since as they say, the squeeky wheel gets the grease, that's all= =2E At > >> no point I insisted on forcing anyone to anything, and I dont think th= at's > >> neither only nor a viable solution. > >> > >> It seems obvious that current process doesnt work very well, then I'd = aim > >> at reorganizing that process - it appears that there is no roles speci= fied, > >> so the responsibility is blurred, and when everyone is responsible for= one > >> thing, in practice no one is. Perhaps role assignment could be of any = help? > > I'm not trying to be a jerk, but surely I'm coming off that way. > > Again, nobody is obligated to accept any assignment. They have to > > volunteer to do it. The only person that The Big Lebowski can influence > > here is himself. > > > > Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if you > > really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing basis, > > my guess is that would be very welcome and we'd figure out a way to set > > that up. It would definitely help, especially for those maintainer that > > "approve" patches but the PRs never get opened (or set to a better state > > than "open"). > > > > At some point we'll have a new PR system, that fact might be having an > > impact on current PRs as well... >=20 > To me it would speak of tooling as opposed to anything. >=20 > Does the ports system have a 1 or 2 click interface for merging PRs like= =20 > for instance github? >=20 > Could ports take PRs in the form of pull requests on github? >=20 > Wouldn't that just turn the number of updates into a few minor clicks? >=20 > (also wouldn't it make it easier for ports submitters)? >=20 > (maybe there is some great ports system that I'm not aware of that makes= =20 > this all as easy github, but I somehow doubt that.) That would imho be a total disaster, as less and less people will really ta= ke care of reviewing the actual patch (lots of commits are already directly fr= om Pr patches without applying some necessary diff for consistency, correctness, = Q/A and cosmetic.) btw we already have tons of tools available to just merge patches directly = =66rom gnats. regards, Bapt --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlLj+PMACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ew6+ACfZmKpqI3564rxWd9n0X7hdFyD WqAAoIxA89hsLvzwre+4wMGAHvZ7bh7Y =YIsI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg--
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