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Date:      Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:31:47 -0500
From:      "Andrew L. Gould" <algould@datawok.com>
To:        Tadimeti Keshav <keshav_tadimeti@yahoo.co.uk>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ports on a CD
Message-ID:  <200309231131.47721.algould@datawok.com>
In-Reply-To: <200309231123.49952.algould@datawok.com>
References:  <20030923160459.79041.qmail@web86004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <200309231123.49952.algould@datawok.com>

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On Tuesday 23 September 2003 11:23 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 September 2003 11:04 am, Tadimeti Keshav wrote:
> >  --- Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote: > On
> > Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 12:59:30AM +0100, Tadimeti
> >
> > > Keshav wrote:
> > > > Guys,
> > > > Is it possible to get all of the ports on a CD
> > >
> > > set?
> > >
> > > > This is one area where Linux fares better. Debian
> > > > offers a 7 CD (OK they don'y make ISOs) set that
> > > > contains all packages.
> > >
> > > What are you really asking here?  First you ask for
> > > ports (but the
> > > ports collection is on CD1), then you say debian
> > > includes packages on
> > > their CDs (so does FreeBSD).
> >
> > Well, remember that the ports collection is nothing
> > but the skeleton that can connect to the internet and
> > fetch the source files that you can compile. What I
> > was asking for is the facility to have all the sources
> > of all the ports on the CD. (SO you needn't connect to
> > the internet to build your machine).
> >
> > > > I think the FreeBSD distribution would be better
> > >
> > > off
> > >
> > > > having all ports on the 2 additional CDs rather
> > >
> > > than
> > >
> > > > have packages.
> > >
> > > Now you say "ports rather than packages", when both
> > > are shipped.
> > >
> > > Can you please clarify what you are asking?
> > >
> > > Kris
> >
> > Debian ships all DEB packages on the CDs. FreeBSD only
> > bundles some packages. For example, JDK is a port
> > while vim is a package. Would it not be better to cut
> > down on several packages of large size and ship the CD
> > with the sources needed to compile JDK etc. Hope U get
> > the point.
>
> 1.  JDK was not available as a package due to licensing restrictions. 
> License restrictions also require end users to download the source directly
> from Sun. I **think** JDK 1.3 is now available as a package (having met
> certain licensing restrictions); but if you want to compile from source,
> you still need to download the source directly from Sun.

I'll correct myself here.  JDK/JRE 1.3* packages aren't available on the 
FreeBSD website.  JDK/JRE 1.3.1 packages are available at:
http://www.FreeBSDFoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml

See the announcement at:
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20030825-java131.shtml

>
> 2.  FreeBSD packages are available on CD's and DVD's from a couple of
> sources: http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm
>      http://www.unixdvd.com/
>      http://www.freebsd-services.com/
>
>      A longer list of FreeBSD vendors can be found at:
>      http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html
>
> 3.  Everything mentioned in #2 above can be found **easily** via the
> "Getting FreeBSD" link on the home page of the FreeBSD website.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Andrew Gould




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