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Date:      Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:55:25 -0700
From:      Josef Grosch <jgrosch@ontario.mooseriver.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        jgrosch@MooseRiver.com, marcus@miami.edu, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Redhat Certified Engineer
Message-ID:  <19990417165525.A61941@ontario.mooseriver.com>
In-Reply-To: <199904172256.PAA22436@usr08.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 10:56:45PM %2B0000
References:  <19990416203918.A53178@ontario.mooseriver.com> <199904172256.PAA22436@usr08.primenet.com>

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On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 10:56:45PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 08:43:22PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but it seems Redhat is offering
> > > > certification much like Cisco or Microsoft.  I think a FreeBSD Ceritifed
> > > > Engineer would be a great thing to tag to my signature.  Any plan for
> > > > this?  Need any help putting something together?  Is this even a good
> > > > idea?
> > > 
> > > This is old news, but worth repeating if people are not aware
> > > of what's going on:
> > > 
> > > They have already processed 1000 students through this program
> > > at US$2500 a student, and made US$2.5M in the process.
> > 
> > 
> > Minus, of course, their costs such as equipment, teachers, administration,
> > etc. Yes, they made money but not 2.5x10**6 dollars.
> 
> The point is, they made a profit, and there is opportunity there,
> if advocating FreeBSD isn't enough to get you interested in doing
> this type of thing, then maybe the money will be.


You know me, Terry. You, and any one else who knows me, know this I am
always sniffing around for money. Collecting a check is my favorite thing
to do after advocating FreeBSD. I just wanted to inject a little reality
into this discussion. 

Having FreeBSD certified Engineers is a good idea. It will make the suits
feel better about FreeBSD and allow FreeBSD-Support to weed out the bozos
from the competent. But this is not an easy task. Developing a course of
study, standardized testing, recruiting teachers, etc. is a lot of work. If
you think getting people to write documentation is tough try getting people
to write course work and teach the classes.

My $0.02


Josef

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