Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:05:27 +0300 From: Sander Vesik <sander.vesik@gmail.com> To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: getting to 5.x binary packages Message-ID: <dcb2c27a0410131305192bf977@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20041013192853.GB43973@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <dcb2c27a04101311294543b724@mail.gmail.com> <dcb2c27a041013115951fba6d9@mail.gmail.com> <20041013192853.GB43973@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>
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[first off, sorry for the duplicate post - some initial gmail confusion] On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:28:53 +0100, Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 09:59:25PM +0300, Sander Vesik wrote: > > Ok, this is a sort of 'getting from A to B' question, except that I > > dont presently have a good idea as to where 'A' is precicely ;-) > > > > It would be nice to have binary packages of jdk 1.4 (or 1.5 i guess, > > but anyways) so that it could be a simple download and hopefully ship > > with one of the 5.x releases. So could anybody tell me if : > > > > * there is a plan (or how to get to one existing) > > * what the plan is > > * what other java related plans are in FreeBSD > > * if thereare obvious concrete ways somebody could help > > * what these ways would be > > > > I can promise to make a patches to the existing web pages @ > > http://www.freebsd.org/java/howhelp.html about the state if > > somebody explains it ... > > The problem with providing a binary distribution is not technical, but > legal. If you download and build the JDK from source you have to > agree to abide by the terms of the Sun Community Source License: Yes, I know of the legal aspect of what must happen before jdk binaries can be redistibuted. > > http://wwws.sun.com/software/communitysource/j2se/java2/license.html > > Which says it's OK to use freely for Research and for Internal > Deployment. Commercial use and permission to redistribute are a very > different matter. You can use the java/jdk14 port to build a FreeBSD > package for your own use, but you cannot give it away outside your own > organization. > Which for many uses and ease of use, really sucks. > In order for the FreeBSD Foundation to be licensed to distribute a > pre-compiled J2SE 1.4.2 JDK or JRE freely the FreeBSD port would first > have to pass Sun's compliance testing -- I believe that it has been > stated that the jdk-1.4.2 port would pass in it's current state > without any trouble at all -- but it takes money to get everything > formally tested, and then the licensing terms have to be negotiated, > again requiring some expenditure on lawyers etc. For most > corporations I don't think the costs would be particularly onerous. > For an all volunteer project like FreeBSD they're right out of the > question unless a generous donor can be found. > My impression was that the existing 4.x package was made under the "special" scholarship TCK licence that Sun provides for free to non- profits (or at least allows them to apply for such) and that similar might supposedly be obtained for making newer Java binary packages for 5.x. Am I mistaken? > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks > Savill Way > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow > Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK >
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