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Date:      Sun, 24 Mar 2013 23:50:30 +1100
From:      Kubilay Kocak <koobs.freebsd@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Cc:        Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>
Subject:   Re: Updating curl
Message-ID:  <514EF696.4070103@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20130324070452.176c84ce@scorpio>
References:  <20130323213126.59789466@scorpio> <20814.24592.288492.914792@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20130324070452.176c84ce@scorpio>

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On 24/03/2013 10:04 PM, Jerry wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:08:16 -0400
> Robert Huff articulated:
> 
>>>  The port version of curl is "7.24.0_2". On February
>>>  6th. curl-7.29.0 was released. Is there any possibility that this
>>>  port might be updated.
>>
>> 	Of course.
>> 	However: my system alone has around two dozen ports that list 
>>
>> curl as a dependency.  No update will happen without sufficient
>> testing to make sure there's no breakage.
>> 	Volunteers for testing should probably contact the maintainer.
> 
> That is an excuse, not a reason. If the maintainer, who has not bothered
> to reply, were to issue an experimental or devel port of curl, I
> would be happy to try it. The fact that curl is a dependent of
> numerous ports is also irrelevant. There are ports that are in far
> greater demand on the system that get updated in less than a year, and
> multiple versions, time.
> 
> There have been several versions released since the one in the port's
> system and over a years time. The KDE and GNOME team often state why
> they are not updating a particular port and what to expect in its
> regards. If the curl maintainer either has lost interest in maintaining
> the port or has a specific reason for not keeping it relatively
> current, then I think he|she|they have an obligation to at least make
> that know to the FreeBSD community. I can totally understand a
> maintainer walking away from a port, it happens here all the time.
> However, if the maintainer no longer desires to keep the port current,
> it would behoove them to state so, so that another individual who might
> have the knowledge and time to do so can take over maintainer ship.
> 
> I am not upset at the maintainer, I just want to know what the future
> of the curl port is. I use it extensively. Your statement regarding
> "testing" is a non-starter Robert. Other versions of this port were
> released sans any formal testing that I am aware of. Plus, the
> maintainer, again to the best of my knowledge, has not offered any of
> the versions of curl issued since the port's version, for public
> testing. It appears to me that the port is abandoned.
> 
> We have ports like "Postfix" that are updated in virtual real time and
> then we have ports that seem to orphaned. It is too bad we cannot find
> a nice happy medium.
> 

To get this going, find attached a <emphasis>work in progress</emphasis>
patch updating curl to 7.29.0, with the following notes:

1) I've moved patch-configure to DONT-patch-configure

Note A: You may assist by merging the patch against 7.29.0
Note B: This change means the port doesn't honour debug/opt flags

2) OPTIONS need to be converted to OPTIONSng

Note: You can assist by merging the changes from this PR:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/172325

3) It fails `make test` (from port dir) with regressions:

-----------
test 2030...OK (782 out of 784, remaining: 00:00)
test 2031...OK (783 out of 784, remaining: 00:00)
test 2032...OK (784 out of 784, remaining: 00:00)
TESTDONE: 624 tests out of 626 reported OK: 99%
TESTFAIL: These test cases failed: 591 1316
TESTDONE: 787 tests were considered during 291 seconds.
*** [quiet-test] Error code 1
-----------

You may assist by testing and identifying the causes and providing
patches for changes

4) This will require an exp-run when its considered 'ready'

5) I ran the port test with default OPTIONS

A final comment that I was inspired to do this because of my desire to
improve FreeBSD and the experience of our (my) community, and the
satisfaction I get from contributing.

A commitment to reporting issues is appreciated (so thank you), and is
more than what most do. It is also however, a minimum expectation.

Perhaps a more mindful, positive approach to encouraging action from
others will garner a higher incidence of favourable responses in the future.

I hope my work helps.

--
Ta,

Koobs




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