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Date:      Thu, 6 Feb 2003 01:18:28 -0500
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Mikhail Teterin <mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: legitimacy of core (Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object)
Message-ID:  <20030206061827.GA4984@papagena.rockefeller.edu>
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Brett Glass said on Feb  5, 2003 at 23:10:49:
> At 08:26 PM 2/5/2003, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> 
> >People don't have much choice in their citizenship.  An American-born
> >citizen didn't have a choice in that (yes, one can emigrate, but
> >that's not such an easy option).  So it is fair that citizens are
> >given certain rights.
> 
> That's not the theory at all. The theory is that rights are
> "natural." Read the preamble to the US Constitution.

There's nothing "natural" about rights.  The only thing natural is the
animal kingdom, and there are no rights there.

And don't bother citing the US constitution.   The US did not give
rights to a substantial part of its population for nearly 200 years
after independence.

> >would try to extend that idea to "members of the FreeBSD community".  
> >None of us are forced to be part
> >of this community.
> 
> In short, your thesis is that if you can choose to leave, you
> have no rights? 

You have the right, and the freedom, to leave, and do anything else
you want.  You don't have the right to tell other people what to do.
You're getting something for free, and the problem with you is you
want more and more of it for free, without giving anything in return.

R

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