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Date:      Wed, 9 Oct 2002 17:13:51 -0400
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org>, chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Real UNIX history (was: Congrats to Brett Glass for new BSD hist
Message-ID:  <20021009171351.A17992@papagena.rockefeller.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3DA48404.3E886F85@mindspring.com>

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Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > No, you;re right.  It was the "them not charging for it" that made
> > > it free.  8-).
> >
> > Remind me again -- why was there a flap, across all three BSDs, about
> > Darren Reed's "no modification" licensing of IP Filter around a year
> > ago?  He never tried to charge for it, did he?  What was that fuss
> > about?
>
> I don't understand the relevence of the question.

The relevance is to the meaning of the word "free".  In the context of
the BSDs, I always understood it meant "freely redistributable"
including the possibility of modifications/bugfixes.  AT&T's code was
not.

I can't think of any counter-examples in the FreeBSD base system.
There are several in the ports, many of which are not shipped on the
CDROM for that reason.

> This was a problem because the ipfilter code was in a security
> critical area, where an OS which incorporated it would need to"
> be able to provide timely and accurate fixes to problems.

It would have been a problem even for a non-security-critical
component.  It is even a problem if bugfixes are allowed but the code
has other, eg patent-related constraints, see for example Theo de 
Raadt's posting on the OpenSSL/Sun issue:
     http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=3291

The OpenBSD people have a rather lengthy document on their copyright
policy:
     http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html

Perhaps FreeBSD's policy is different, but I always understood not.

- Rahul

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