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Date:      Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:06:12 -0400
From:      Mikhail Teterin <mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
Cc:        gnome@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: mozilla's install hanging on amd64
Message-ID:  <200504111406.13047.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com>
In-Reply-To: <425AA728.7050809@samsco.org>
References:  <200504102137.j3ALbm0h079084@corbulon.video-collage.com> <200504111229.39072.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com> <425AA728.7050809@samsco.org>

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> > Even a broken thing can be useful to some.
>
> Is my car broken because it can't go 300km/hr?  A Porshe can, so
> shouldn't mine be able to?

A better analogy would be a car running only 87-rated gasoline. Nothing in its 
manual would suggest anything about it, but it just would not run on anything 
else.

BTW, a complete rebuild with `-O0 -g -march=opteron' causes the same problem. 
If, however, I cd into /opt/lib/mozilla and run the hanging command manually 
it succeeds instantly...

> But I don't play with custom gcc options.

You keep saying "play" and "custom" -- there is nothing like that. I'm just 
following the documented (in example and in manual page) procedure -- setting 
the CPUTYPE. This just in, however:

	http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=145676&cid=12201753

:-)

> Shouting to everyone that mozilla is BROKEN doesn't help this very much.

If you scroll up this thread, you'll notice, that I only began to "shout" in 
response to suggestion, that the failure is my own fault, because I added a 
"non-standard and un-supported" compiler flag. The suggestion was yours and 
you should admit -- if only for the record -- you were wrong.

Most likely there is a subtle bug somewhere inside Mozilla, that is exposed by 
the -march=opteron setting. We should be thankful, a reliable way to 
reproduce it is now known :-)

	-mi



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