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Date:      Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:13:11 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        David <dvo264@airmail.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ascii conversion to binary
Message-ID:  <19980129171311.01926@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980129001339.977B-100000@stumbleinn.dyn.ml.org>; from David on Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 12:22:18AM -0600
References:  <19980129155429.18439@lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980129001339.977B-100000@stumbleinn.dyn.ml.org>

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On Thu, Jan 29, 1998 at 12:22:18AM -0600, David wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:54:29 +1030
>> From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
>> To: David <dvo264@airmail.net>
>> Cc: Adam Simpson <adam2@apollo.netsonic.com>,
>>     freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>> Subject: Re: ascii conversion to binary
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 1998 at 11:15:35PM -0600, David wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:39:42 +1030
>>>> From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
>>>> To: Adam Simpson <adam2@apollo.netsonic.com>
>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>>>> Subject: Re: ascii conversion to binary
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 1998 at 01:59:44PM -0600, Adam Simpson wrote:
>>>>> If a file is transferred in ascii mode, is there a way to convert it back
>>>>> to binary??
>>>>
>>>> As others have said, no.
>>>>
>>>> There is *never* a reason to transfer files in ASCII.  Always choose
>>>> binary.
>>>
>>> I'll let you reset all my HTML codes in the web pages after I transfer
>>> then in Binary. I'm getting tired of doing it after forgeting to type
>>> ascii at the prompt.
>>
>> Please explain.  Binary doesn't change anything.
>
> *Serveral* times I have moved a webpage site from one host to another. I
> used command line FTP, Not a Win95 program such as CUTEFTP or WS_FTP ,
> Each time i've done a mget to pull all the files. As long as I change
> modes to ascii from binary I can go to the site ( in a browser) after the
> transfer and nothing has changed as far as the formating of theHTML document.
> But if I don't change to ASCII and stay in BINARY , Since I just transfered the
> JPG's and GIF's also, the HTML formating ie.. tabs, Returns, end of lines,
> any formating I've done will and was wiped out and I had to take the page
> back into an editor, and reset all the formating codes. Maybe I was doing
> something wrong but I'm tired of haveing to redo a page every time I don't
> change to ASCII when i transfer a TEXT file with page formating encoded
> such as an HTML document.

Well, if you've gone in with an editor, you'll know what's changed.
What is it?

Here's a thing to try: pull in the same web page in ascii and binary,
and run diff against it:

 $ ftp remote-site
 ftp> bin
 ftp> get web-page.html web-page.bin
 ftp> ascii
 ftp> get web-page.html web-page.ascii
 ftp> ^D
 $ diff -wu web-page.bin web-page.ascii

I'd be interested to see what the differences are.  About the only
thing I can guess is that the other end does something funny, but
that's unusual.

Greg



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