Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:35:57 +0200 (METDST) From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: hm@hcs.de, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf Message-ID: <20010815163557.CF51D534@hcswork.hcs.de> In-Reply-To: <XFMail.010815091544.jhb@FreeBSD.org> "from John Baldwin at Aug 15, 2001 09:15:44 am"
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From=20the keyboard of John Baldwin: > We aren't supposed to break -stable API's and what not. Ok, you are right, accepted. In that strict sense you are right and the whole thing should be backed out. In the last days i received numerous mails saying "oh good that it made it into 4.4" because noone i know is actually using the i4b in stable=20 anymore but uses the overinstall kit to use in stable what was formerly only in current. What does the API change is about ? It adds two fields to a structure to configure isppp to allow for lcp timeout configuration and enable of VJ compression. It affects noone but ISDN kernel PPP users. The inclusion of the first solves a major cause of trouble to people and is one of=20 the major causes why people don=B4t use the i4b in stable anymore. > The MFC should have included _all_ of the needed changes. You are also right in this one, and in case you are taking it strict, again the whole thing should be backed out. > This should really be fixed before the release one way or another. Allright, as i said, i=B4m ready to do so, but i consider _this_ much more= =20 dangerous than the situation currently is so i will not initiate this mysel= f. =20 > Backing out changes in -stable because an API or user interface is broken= is > nonsense? That's one of the main characteristics of -stable: not just > stability as far as not crashing, but stability in APIs and user interfac= es.=20 > You can add new APIs, but you shouldn't break old ones. What about giving more stability which is not possible without breaking an = API ? hellmuth --=20 Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 55 97 47= -70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 55 97 47= -77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de D-22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.= de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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