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Date:      Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:38:13 +0200
From:      Andre Oppermann <oppermann@pipeline.ch>
To:        Lanny Baron <beef@cybertouch.org>
Cc:        Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ssh in canada.
Message-ID:  <36079A35.4D29D650@pipeline.ch>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980921202328.494B-100000@beef.cybertouch.org>

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Lanny Baron wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, Malartre wrote:
> 
> > What are the possible consequence of using ssh in canada? I was forced
> > to put the usa_resident flag in /etc/make.conf to compile ssh.
> > --
> > [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/]
> 
>         I am in Canada and installed ssh. So far I have had no problem.
> And if its not legal for some reason. What would the reason be?

There is no problem to export crypto stuff from the US to Canada but
then the stronger US regulations apply also in Canada. That means
you're not able to re-export it to the world, what would be otherwise
possible for crypto made in Canada.

> If gov'ts are worrying about ssh..maybe they should focus on the ease of
> children seeing hard core porn and brutality. They might get somewhere.

The US crypto policy has a (or more) serious bug: The argument for
strong crypto export control is that "criminals" (they mean terrorists)
otherwise could get hold of it and use it. Now they make it illegal
to export it and think they can stop the criminal doing a crime by
making it a crime to do so... stupid!

I admit that it helps to control the export of nuclear and other
weapons but they are physical.

Crypto is not "physical", it's knowledge and/or software. That means
it is not controllable what gets exported.

[hmmm... I like this discussion!]
-- 
Andre

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