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Date:      Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:30:10 +0200
From:      "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" <listsub@401.cx>
To:        Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Swag... new choices?
Message-ID:  <3F7DC032.8040806@401.cx>
In-Reply-To: <3F7D53DF.11218.48A31DDD@localhost>
References:  <20030928152441.S83167-100000@users.757.org> <3F7D53DF.11218.48A31DDD@localhost>

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Dan Langille wrote:
> On 3 Oct 2003 at 15:32, Paul Robinson wrote:
*snip*
>>The real problem though is free use of the logo/mascot. To really open
>>up the market like OpenBSD has, you kind of have to consider... dare I
>>say it?... changing the mascot. If you want to produce lots of mass
>>produced stuff with loads of artwork and sell them, you can't use
>>beastie unless you've cleared every item with McKusick:
>>
>>http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html
>>
>>That's fine, and I understand his reasoning. It just works against what
>>you're suggesting unfortunately.
> 
> My experience with obtaining permission has been positive.

I dont think obtaining permission is the problem, I think the fact that 
you have to obtain it in the first place is the problem.
I know a lot of artists, some of my best friends are artists, and most 
of them wont do anything that has something even remotely similar to a 
copyright hanging over it.
Im sure McKusick is a great guy, the few times Ive been in contact with 
him I have had no problem at all, but just the fact that he owns the 
copyright on the daemon scares a lot of people away.
In todays society, you can get sued just for being in the wrong place at 
the wrong time. I find it completely understandable that people dont 
make t-shirts, posters or whatever as long as there is a copyright on 
the daemon.

--
R




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