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Date:      Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:02:31 -0300
From:      "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@tcoip.com.br>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ACLS on UFS2 from FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE install.
Message-ID:  <3F323FD7.6090903@tcoip.com.br>
In-Reply-To: <3F31E42E.87379C0A@mindspring.com>
References:  <1059854534.46751.0.camel@acheron.livid.de> <3F311492.9080309@tcoip.com.br> <3F31E42E.87379C0A@mindspring.com>

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Terry Lambert wrote:
> "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
> 
>>Scott M. Likens wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone noticed the ACLS being disabled?
>>>
>>>tunefs -p /dev/da1s1c shows that ACLS are disabled on every partition I
>>>have, i've gone through them all.
>>>
>>>any reason why?
>>
>>ACL is not the standard unix permission. Why enable something most
>>people don't even know is there?
> 
> 
> Have you ever had the need to put someone in more than 16 inclusion
> or exclusion groups simultaneously, and run out of groups that could
> simultaneously be associated with a given credential?

Yes, that's why I enabled ACL here. Alas, I know FreeBSD supports ACL, 
and I know what semantics are used, so I'm not likely to be caught 
unaware by something I don't even know it's there.

You'll also notice I'm not questioning the _existence_ of ACL. My point 
is that FreeBSD is Unix (no matter what the lawyers say), and people 
don't usually think of ACL when they think of Unix. Ergo, enabling ACL 
by defautl violates POLA.

And, in FreeBSD, POLA is king.

(Or so we used to believe, no matter what we actually did. :)

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