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Date:      Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:50:07 +0200 (CEST)
From:      "Hartmann, O." <ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de>
To:        Andy Knapp <knappster@knappster.net>
Cc:        "'Tom Snell'" <gracchus@inficad.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: microuptime() went backwards, FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <20021015204904.L77350-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de>
In-Reply-To: <002d01c27472$268cca50$04291581@cobtech10>

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On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Andy Knapp wrote:

No, on our servers I disabled APM by default because it triggered trouble
in the past on several SMP machines. And why APM on every-time-up servers?
No, definitely no APM facilities in kernel or BIOS enabled!

:>are there any references to apm in it? seems the default reference,
:>which says to disable it, doesn't work correctly...
:>
:>-andy
:>
:>-----Original Message-----
:>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
:>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Hartmann, O.
:>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:32 PM
:>To: Andy Knapp
:>Cc: 'Tom Snell'; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
:>Subject: RE: microuptime() went backwards, FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE
:>
:>
:>On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Andy Knapp wrote:
:>
:>This machine has a highly customized kernel ...
:>
:>:>I've actually had this problem before, and I am pretty sure that it is
:>a :>problem with the apm line in the generic kernel. Have you made a
:>:>customized kernel? if not, i would suggest doing that and getting rid
:>of :>all the apm lines; after that i never received these messages
:>again. :> :>HTH, :>Andy :>
:>:>btw: if you do a search in the mailing list archives for "microuptime"
:>:>you can find everything you need. :> :>-----Original Message-----
:>:>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
:>:>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Tom Snell
:>:>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:27 PM
:>:>To: Hartmann, O.; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
:>:>Subject: Re: microuptime() went backwards, FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE :> :>
:>:>Hartmann, O. wrote: :> :>>Hello. :>> :>>Is this subject of a bug
:>report? :>> :>>While calculating numerical simulations and heavy load
:>one of our P4 :>>systems showed up this:
:>:>>microuptime() went backwards (57243.730002 -> 57243.730001) :> :>>
:>:>>dmesgout of the system follows as attachment. :>> :>>
:>:>>--
:>:>>MfG
:>:>>O. Hartmann
:>:>>
:>:>>ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de
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:>:>>Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project.
:>:>>Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993,
:>:>1994
:>:>>	The Regents of the University of California. All rights
:>:>reserved.
:>:>>FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #2: Sat Oct 12 15:12:23 CEST 2002
:>:>>    root@mail.physik.uni-mainz.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MAIL
:>:>>Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
:>:>>Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 2271871004 Hz
:>:>>CPU: Pentium 4 (2271.87-MHz 686-class CPU)
:>:>>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf24  Stepping = 4
:>:>>
:>:>>Features=0x3febfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,
:>PG
:>:>E,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,<b28>,ACC>
:>:>>real memory  = 1073659904 (1048496K bytes)
:>:>>avail memory = 1041215488 (1016812K bytes)
:>:>>Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03ac000.
:>:>>ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers
:>:>>netsmb_dev: loaded
:>:>>Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
:>:>>Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f1be0
:>:>>npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
:>:>>npx0: INT 16 interface
:>:>>pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
:>:>>pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
:>:>>pcib1: <PCI to PCI bridge (vendor=8086 device=2532)> at device 1.0 on
:>:>pci0
:>:>>pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
:>:>>pci1: <ATI model 5046 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11
:>:>>pcib2: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) Hub to PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on
:>:>pci0
:>:>>pci2: <PCI bus> on pcib2
:>:>>pci2: <NEC uPD 9210 USB controller> at 4.0 irq 15
:>:>>pci2: <NEC uPD 9210 USB controller> at 4.1 irq 14
:>:>>pci2: <USB controller> at 4.2 irq 4
:>:>>ahc0: <Adaptec 2940A Ultra SCSI adapter> port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem
:>:>0xf5000000-0xf5000fff irq 15 at device 9.0 on pci2
:>:>>aic7860: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/253 SCBs
:>:>>fxp0: <Intel Pro 10/100B/100+ Ethernet> port 0xb400-0xb43f mem
:>:>0xf4000000-0xf40fffff,0xf4800000-0xf4800fff irq 14 at device 10.0 on
:>:>pci2
:>:>>fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:4c:2e:9c
:>:>>inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus0
:>:>>inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
:>:>>sym0: <1010-33> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem
:>:>0xf3000000-0xf3001fff,0xf3800000-0xf38003ff irq 4 at device 11.0 on
:>pci2
:>:>>sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, LVD, parity checking
:>:>>sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
:>:>>sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
:>:>>sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
:>:>>sym0: SCAN FOR LUNS disabled for targets 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12
:>13 :>14 15.
:>:>>sym1: <1010-33> port 0xa800-0xa8ff mem
:>:>0xf2000000-0xf2001fff,0xf2800000-0xf28003ff irq 10 at device 11.1 on
:>:>pci2
:>:>>sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, SE, parity checking
:>:>>sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
:>:>>sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
:>:>>sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
:>:>>isab0: <Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) PCI to LPC bridge> at device 31.0 on
:>:>pci0
:>:>>isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
:>:>>pci0: <Unknown PCI ATA controller> at 31.1
:>:>>orm0: <Option ROMs> at iomem
:>:>0xc0000-0xcdfff,0xd0000-0xd07ff,0xd4000-0xd57ff,0xd8000-0xdbfff on
:>isa0
:>:>>atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
:>:>>atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
:>:>>kbd0 at atkbd0
:>:>>vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on
:>:>isa0
:>:>>sc0: <System console> on isa0
:>:>>sc0: VGA <8 virtual consoles, flags=0x200>
:>:>>fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
:>:>isa0
:>:>>fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
:>:>>fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
:>:>>DUMMYNET initialized (011031)
:>:>>ipfw2 initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled,
:>:>default to deny, logging unlimited
:>:>>IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. :>>Waiting 3
:>seconds for SCSI devices to settle
:>:>>(noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. :>>Mounting root
:>from ufs:/dev/da0s1a :>>da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
:>:>>da0: <IBM DDYS-T18350N S96H> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
:>:>>da0: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged
:>:>Queueing Enabled
:>:>>da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) :>>da1 at
:>sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
:>:>>da1: <IBM IC35L018UWD210-0 S5BS> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
:>:>>da1: 160.000MB/s transfers (80.000MHz, offset 62, 16bit), Tagged
:>:>Queueing Enabled
:>:>>da1: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) :>>cd0 at
:>ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
:>:>>cd0: <TEAC CD-ROM CD-532S 1.0A> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device
:>:>>cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15)
:>:>>cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not
:>present
:>:>>fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6
:>:>>fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6
:>:>>link_elf: symbol splash_register undefined
:>:>>fxp0: promiscuous mode enabled
:>:>>fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6 :>>cd1 at
:>ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0
:>:>>cd1: <YAMAHA CRW3200S 1.0d> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device
:>:>>cd1: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15)
:>:>>cd1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not
:>present
:>:>- tray closed
:>:>>arp: runt packet
:>:>>arp: runt packet
:>:>>arp: runt packet
:>:>>arp: runt packet
:>:>>arp: runt packet
:>:>>nfs server 134.93.180.216:/usr/homes: not responding
:>:>>nfs server 134.93.180.216:/usr/homes: is alive again
:>:>>microuptime() went backwards (57243.730002 -> 57243.730001)
:>:>>arp: runt packet
:>:>>arp: runt packet
:>:>>
:>:>>
:>:>
:>:>I had a motherboard with the early AMD 751/756 (Irongate) chipset that
:>I :> :>was never able to install FBSD to, simply because once it booted,
:>all it :> :>would do was spew out megabytes of these same 'microuptime'
:>messages. :> The same thing happened with a number of the earlier Athlon
:>VIA :>chipsets, too, as I recall.  It had something to do with the
:>chipsets :>being 'flaky' (never could get a better answer), and it
:>affects :>synchronization with the system clock somehow. :> :>You
:>mention this single line showed up under heavy load.  From your :>dmesg,
:>it appears you're running all SCSI, but the line that sticks out :>for
:>me is the "pci0: <Unknown PCI ATA controller>".....it seems you have :>
:>:>a brand new mobo with the latest chipset, not yet fully supported in
:>the :> :>kernel.  I'm not sure how this might affect you on what is
:>basically a :>SCSI system, but it looks like it just did a single hiccup
:>when it went :>looking for the NFS server anyway, so I don't think it's
:>anything to :>worry about.  Unless this box is used for heavy
:>number-crunching (which :>it probably is, being in the Physics
:>department), it's nothing to worry :>about, but I'd periodically grep
:>/var/log/messages for the 'microuptime' :> :>to see if and when it
:>appears again, and perhaps compare results of :>several number-crunching
:>exercises run on this box and another :>"known-good" box to ensure
:>integrity.  Hope this helps a little.... :> :>Tom Snell :> :> :> :>To
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:>--
:>MfG
:>O. Hartmann
:>
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MfG
O. Hartmann

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