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Date:      31 May 2002 23:44:47 +0200
From:      Franz Klammer <klammer@webonaut.com>
To:        Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        gnome@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: pango broken with latest freetype?
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Am Fr, 2002-05-31 um 22.48 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
> On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 16:33, Franz Klammer wrote:
> > Am Fr, 2002-05-31 um 21.35 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
> > > On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 14:17, Franz Klammer wrote:
> > > > Am Fr, 2002-05-31 um 18.21 schrieb Joe Marcus Clarke:
> > > > > On Fri, 2002-05-31 at 04:19, Franz Klammer wrote:
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As Joe tells me that my "I'm seeing some reports that say your
> > > > > > anti-alias/Xinerama issue is a bug in freetype2." i did 
> > > > > > yesterday an update of freetype2 from the second last to
> > > > > > the latest version.
> > > > > > everything seems to work fine. only gdm2 displays no text 
> > > > > > exept in the username/password input field.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, I don't know what to tell you.  I just downgraded to
> > > > > freetype2-2.0.9, and Nautilus displays glyphs again.  I know 2.1.0 has a
> > > > > lot of changes for the conversion to the new freetype API.  Perhaps it's
> > > > > incompatible with GNOME currently.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I know the latest release of GARNOME shipped with 2.0.9 even though
> > > > > 2.1.0 was available.  Maxim, are things working okay for you with the
> > > > > new freetype2?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > doesn't matter! i can work with my pc as ususal. that's important.
> > > > if it is necessary i will downgrade too.
> > > 
> > > Here are the patches to freetype-2.1.0 to fix the problem with glyph
> > > rending in nautilus.  It may also fix your problems with pango.  Just
> > > place the files in print/freetype2/files, and build.
> > > 
> > 
> > short: how i can see resp. say - yes it fixes my problems but it only
> >        revert my system back to the state before FT2-update.
> > 
> > longer:
> > - gdm2 now displays fonts again.
> > - nautilus2 and some other gnome-programs still have the 
> >   same problem with Xinerama. exact like the screenshot i sent you.
> > - i also tried to build (not install) pango-1.0.1 but it fails with the
> >   same errors as i sent you before.actually i've installed pango-1.0.2.
> > 
> > the interesting thing is that, not like you've written, nautilus 
> > displayes fonts after FT-update. before your patches, as i've seen, 
> > only gdm2(graphical) and the spash-screen doesn't displays text.
> 
> This is because the problem was with librsvg's use of the FT library. 
> In nautilus2, librsvg defers to pango for freetype rendering.  As long
> as pango works, then so will Nautilus.
> 
> > 
> > i hope i was able to help you. please tell me if you need more.
> 
> Okay, this is good info.  The FreeBSD GNOME community has a choice to
> make then.  Do we apply these patches to FT 2.1.0, and mess up Xinerama
> support, but allow older GNOME 1.4.x users to be happy, or go without
> the patches, and force GNOME 1.4.x users to either stay on FT 2.0.9, or
> deal with the rending problems in librsvg?  Or, do we offer this as a
> compile-time option to users?  Or, do we revert back to 2.0.9?
> 

i hope you don't want a answer to this questions from me :-))
all joking aside - just to be realy shure there is no misunderstanding
because i'm maybee not clear enough: refering to "mess up Xinerama
support": the Xinerama support was never solved. neither with or without
your patches. 


> I'm hoping the freetype developers will be able to shed some more light
> on this problem.  Perhaps this is something they can fix.  If we decide
> to stay with FT 2.1.0, I will do the update of GTK+-2.0 and friends so
> that they will build with the new FT.
> 
> Joe
> 
> > 
> > franz
> > 
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