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Date:      27 Jul 2002 18:41:35 -0400
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        sroberts@dsl.pipex.com
Cc:        Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com>, freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx works only for root WAS [Re: Newly installed
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On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 19:39, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> Joe.., you're a DUDE!
>=20
> That's sorted out the Sawfish issue for me wholesale!  All appears fine
> now with Sawfish, and I was able to run the Sawfish configuration tool
> and set things up as I prefer.
>=20
> Do you think that it was down to wrong permissions on Sawfish dirs that
> caused my problems?

Yes.

>=20
> On another note. I'll be doing the following now:
>=20
> 1] Edit ~/.xinitrc (I presume I don't have to exit from X) to include:
> exec /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session

Nope.

>=20
> 2] Exit from X
>=20
> 3] Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config to include these options for the 2 button
> mouse:
>=20
> Section "InputDevice"
> 	Identifier	"Mouse0"
> 	Driver		"mouse"
> 	Option		"Protocol" "auto"
> 	Option		"Device" "/dev/mouse"
> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"
> EndSection
>=20
> 4] Edit /etc/rc.conf to include:=20
> moused_enable=3D"YES"
> moused_flags=3D"-3"
>=20
> 5] As non-root user, run moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -3

moused should run as root.

>=20
> Please let me know the above looks okay for what is required for the
> mouse to work okay:
>=20
> Thanks again for all of your patience, and willingness to help!

No problem.

Joe

>=20
> Stacey
>=20
> On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 23:09, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 19:05, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > Hi Joe,
> > >    Okay, let me make sure I have this procedure down correct here:
> > > 1] Log off from X
> > > 2] su to root
> > > 3] Delete (as root) /tmp/.sawfish-stacey
> >=20
> > 3.25] Delete _all_ /tmp/.sawfish* directories
> > 3.5] Exit from su back to user stacey
> >=20
> > > 4] Run "startx" to log into X again
> > > 5] I should now be able to configure Sawfish in gnomecontrolcenter
> >=20
> > Yes, if you do the steps I listed above.
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > I'm not sure what you meant by ensuring that I use Xwrapper to start =
X.
> > > I only use what I've installed (the wrapper port) in order to use
> > > "startx" to start X
> >=20
> > When I say Xwrapper, I mean the wrapper port.
> >=20
> > Joe
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > Please let me know if there's some chance I'm not using the correct
> > > procedure here.
> > >=20
> > > Stacey
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 22:19, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 18:01, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > >    I've not got copy paste working with my mouse here at the mome=
nt
> > > > > working on that as well :-( but I'll type the output here:
> > > >=20
> > > > Make sure you're using moused, and have your protocol in your XF86C=
onfig
> > > > file set to Auto.  If the button is only a two-button mouse, make s=
ure
> > > > you're starting moused with the -3 flag, and you have the correct
> > > > Emulate3Buttons option set for your mouse in XF86Config.
> > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > As non-root user:
> > > > > bash-2.05a$ /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui
> > > > > error: can't connect to socket
> > > > > /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/<host>.mydomainname.com:0.0
> > > > > *** Error: can't connect to sawfish on display, :0
> > > >=20
> > > > Does /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/ exist?  What are the permissions?  How a=
bout
> > > > the <host>.mydomainname.com:0.0 socket?
> > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > As root after the above failure:
> > > > > # /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui
> > > > > GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
> > > > > Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication prot=
ocols
> > > > > specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
> > > > > error: can't connect to socket
> > > > > /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/<host>.mydomainname.com:0.0
> > > > > *** Error: can't connect to sawfish on display, :0
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Hope this proves helpful.
> > > > >=20
> > > > > About your other e-mail concerning the contents of ~/.xinitrc, wh=
at I
> > > > > have in the file is only what's written in the FBSD Handbook 2nd =
Ed Pg
> > > > > 137
> > > >=20
> > > > The handbook could use an update.  Starting gnome-session with exec
> > > > greatly speeds things up when closing X.
> > > >=20
> > > > Joe
> > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Stacey
> > > > >=20
> > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 21:49, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 15:29, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > > > >    I ran the cmds you suggested as prescribed. One thing to m=
ention:
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > For the two commands:
> > > > > > > killall gconfd-1
> > > > > > > killall gconfd-2
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > I got "no matching process found" returned.
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > On typing startx, sound now appears to be working, but I am s=
till unable
> > > > > > > to configure Sawfish: Same "beep", nothing happens.
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > Some progress though., whatdya think?
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Run /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui, and send me the output.
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > Stacey
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 18:15, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 10:36, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi Maxime
> > > > > > > > >    Thanks for getting back to me.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > I got your message and advise about configuring Sawfish, =
but its really
> > > > > > > > > strange here.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > When I installed gnome, I didn't select any other window =
manager (as I
> > > > > > > > > knew that Sawfish is installed as the default window mana=
ger anyways. I
> > > > > > > > > was able to run the "Configure Sawfish Window Manager" to=
ol as root
> > > > > > > > > after recompiling Sawfish (as per Joe Marcus Clarke's adv=
isory), but I
> > > > > > > > > am not able to do so as a non-root user.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > I get the same "beep" noise and nothing happens.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > Sawfish is selected as "current" in the gnomecontrolcente=
r panel when I
> > > > > > > > > start it, so its already running!
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > If there is any log / or config files that would assist y=
ou, do ask and
> > > > > > > > > I'll get that off to you.
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > Shut all X things down.  Then run the following as root:
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > killall esd
> > > > > > > > killall oafd
> > > > > > > > killall gconfd-1
> > > > > > > > killall gconfd-2
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > rm -rf /tmp/.sawfish*
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > Then start up X again as a non-root user.  Things should wo=
rk for you.
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > Thanks again for the reply.
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > Stacey
> > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 14:23, Maxime Romano wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >From: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >To: Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >CC: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com>, <freebsd-gnome@freebsd.o=
rg>
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx works only=
 for root WAS [Re:=20
> > > > > > > > > > >Newly installed
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:39:35 +0100
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Hi Maxime,
> > > > > > > > > > >    That's worked for!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >However, I'm back to my original problem:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >"Sawfish not running", when trying to configure Sawfis=
h as ordinary user.
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > Sawfish must be running *before* you can configure it.
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Running "sawfish" at cli returns: "You can only run on=
e window manager"
> > > > > > > > > > You have to kill your current window manager, and start=
 sawfish quickly, or=20
> > > > > > > > > > else the old window manager might kick in and try to ta=
ke over again.
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > Try something like "killall metacity;killall enlightenm=
ent;killall=20
> > > > > > > > > > sawfish;killall twm;sawfish 1&- 2&- 3&- &"  That oughta=
 fix everthing up.
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > -Maxime Romano
> > > > > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Stacey
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Quoting Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > No, no!  To use startx, your X server must be SUID =
root!  Do to that,
> > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > chmod +s /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 as root and you're =
set.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (Oh, and try to set the permissions on XFree86.0.lo=
g to what they were.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Something might break.)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Maxime Romano
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >From: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >To: robert Backhaus <robbakfreebsd@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >CC: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>,FreeB=
SD User Questions
> > > > > > > > > > > > List
> > > > > > > > > > > > ><freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>,<freebsd-gnome@Fre=
eBSD.ORG>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx works =
only for root WAS
> > > > > > > > > > > > [Re:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Newly installed 4.6Stable+gnome1.4x =3D Broken Saw=
fish]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:53:27 +0100
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Robert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >    I did as you suggested, but that only gives me=
 a new error:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Fatal server error:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >xf86OpenConsole: server must be suid root
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Silly question, how do I get the permissions to re=
vert back to what
> > > > > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > > >were:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >"rw r r root wheel"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >????
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Stacey
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Quoting robert Backhaus <robbakfreebsd@yahoo.co.uk=
>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sroberts@dsl.pipex.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    I recompiled Sawfish, but now startx only =
works
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for root.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For each user, there already exists the .xini=
trc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with: /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session being the =
only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > line in there.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The error I get is:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fatal Server Error:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cannnot open log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help me with this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stacey
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the ownership of /var/log/Free86.0.log
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ls /var/log/XFree86.0.log
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it should be something like rwx_w__w_
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > do chmod a+w /var/log//XFree86.0.log
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Backhaus
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