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Date:      Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:23:12 +0200
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: RFC: New VOP to translate vnode to its component name
Message-ID:  <20081210162312.GO2038@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <1228894344.35477.40.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 02:32:24AM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 11:22 +0000, Robert Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> >=20
> > >> Just to give a general vote of "we need to do something here, whethe=
r the=20
> > >> details are exactly these or not" -- having better object->path reso=
lution=20
> > >> is quite important for audit, as well as if we want to adopt a file =
system=20
> > >> notification services along the lines of Apple's fsevents (which is=
=20
> > >> path-centric and operates from close() events rather than open() eve=
nts).=20
> > >> I don't think we should run in the Linux 'dentry' direction, but hav=
ing a=20
> > >> more robust translation service would be quite valuable.  One commen=
t: I=20
> > >> think we should continue to have a KPI which does a sleep-free trans=
lation=20
> > >> to call, but with weaker semantics than one that is sleepable and ca=
n query=20
> > >> for more robust reverse lookup.
> > >
> > > Okay, what about a name?
> >=20
> > Oh, I do love a good bikeshed.  I'm actually fine with any of these, bu=
t=20
> > vn_fullpath_cache() sounds good to me.  One of the cases I have in mind=
 is=20
> > path-based MAC policies, which will convert from a vnode to a path whil=
e=20
> > holding the vnode lock -- if something is going to run around locking v=
nodes=20
> > and doing VOP_READDIR's, that is not the time to do it.
>=20
> I've duplicated vn_fullpath, vn_fullpath_global, and textvp_fullpath in
> this latest version.  The new (well, old) functions are named *_cache.
> I even updated the vn_fullpath.9 man page.
>=20
> http://www.marcuscom.com/downloads/vop_vptocnp_7.diff

Main reason for vn_fullpath_cache() is to not sleep inside the function.
I think this shall be reflected in the man page changes you did.

I do not like having the old code pasted into the vfs_cache.c together
with new implementation. I think that vn_fullpath1 can take a flag
specifying whether to call the vop, and return ENOENT when call is
disabled. This shall give the same effect without code bloat.

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