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Date:      Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:56:05 -0200
From:      "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" <unixmania@gmail.com>
To:        Robert Noland <rnoland@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ports/137373: x11/libX11: make dependance on x11/libxcb
Message-ID:  <e71790db0912201656u7cf2fc99tcaabeb406f283b11@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <1261317544.2315.52.camel@balrog.2hip.net>
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Robert Noland <rnoland@freebsd.org> wrote=
:
> On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 10:11 +0300, Max Brazhnikov wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 01:06:37 -0200, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote:
>> > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Robert Noland <rnoland@freebsd.org> w=
rote:
>> > > On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 00:30 -0200, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote:
>> >
>> > ....
>> >
>> > >> Is it acceptable a patch allowing to diable XCB without a menu? The
>> > >> default behavior is kept but users can put "WITHOUT_XCB=3Dtrue" in
>> > >> /etc/make.conf, ensuring that all ports are built the same way.
>> > >
>> > > If it is defined as a KNOB and all of the ports override the option =
if
>> > > the KNOB is set, then yes I'm ok with it. =A0I just don't want an op=
tion,
>> > > since it makes foot shooting easier.
>> > >
>> > > robert.
>> >
>> > Ok, I will submit a followup with an new patch.
>>
>> As KDE (and several multimedia ports) maintainer I object to having xcb =
knob
>> in x11 ports. Turning it off will break plist and/or build of these port=
s,
>> they does require libx11 compiled with xcb support.
>
> Well, I don't get why anyone would not want it. =A0I have had discussions
> with other Xorg folk about making it mandatory for X.

Remember that not everybody wants X for running GNOME or KDE. Think
about appliances and kiosks where small footprint counts more than
fancy functionality or even performance. That's what I'm attempting to
do here. I could maintain a private set of customized ports - and have
been doing this, to some extent - but it is much better to put the
options in the regular ports. Also, I'm not the only one interested on
such thing. Look at x11/xorg-minimal, for instance.



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