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Date:      Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:52:53 -0700
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stallman stalls again
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At 12:16 AM 3/16/2001, Mike Meyer wrote:

>I already pointed out the problem with the quotes. Your response to my
>request for the context was "go find it yourself." 

Lame excuse! If you can't use the Net, it's not my fault.

>Come on - show me a
>single direct quote where he says "go steal programs". Or even two
>sentences, one that follows the other, where he says "publishers call
>sharing piracy. Share as much as you can". Better yet, provide a URL
>for that.

His Web site was once more explicit about this, but in a good example
of Orwellian revisionism he quietly toned it down. So, you'll need
to go to any place where Stallman speaks. He's quite candid in front
of live audiences that he considers to be sympathetic. I might be
able to obtain some transcripts of his speech at the 1999 LinuxWorld,
which wasn't published online, in which he did directly advocate
piracy. As he did in personal conversations with Yours Truly.

>You should be flattered that I chose to imitate your rhetorical
>technics. 

Oh, I'm sooooooo flattered. Alas, you fail to imitate me on one
important way: You're not thinking critically. You've apparently
been taken in by Stallman's fraud.

>I'm sure they learned something. Most of them learned that responding
>to what you write is a waste of time, because you aren't going to pay
>attention.

I pay attention. That's why I am seeking to raise awareness about
Stallman, the GPL, and their true aims and effects. When you see
programmers irrationally slitting their own throats and spouting
propraganda, and a war brewing that's going to hurt EVERYONE, it's
time to expose the demagogue for what he is.

--Brett Glass


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