Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:04:04 +0930 From: Andrew Reid <andrew.reid@plug.cx> To: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> Cc: Andrew Reid <andrew.reid@plug.cx>, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network Startup Message-ID: <20011017090404.B16064@plug.cx> In-Reply-To: <15308.23901.224115.801253@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 11:16:29AM -0500 References: <88624047@toto.iv> <15308.23901.224115.801253@guru.mired.org>
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 11:16:29AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > That's a bit of a problem as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps the network
> > scripts should be redesigned in a similar manner to the one taken on be
> > RedHat.
>
> Note that rc.conf and just the network scripts are slightly different
> things. rc.conf controls a lot more than just the network, and the
> only way to reload it is a reboot. Individual components can be
> stopped and restarted - or asked to reconfig - by hand.
Indeed. The latter component of your statement is what bothers
me. Having only the manual way available to restart network interfaces
isn't quite satisfactory to me.
> As far as I know, the RedHat stuff is modeled after System V, which,
> aside from the one good feature you've just noticed, acts more like a
> bilge pump than software.
Agreed.
> There is work afoot for incorporating the 5.0 to incorporate the
> NetBSD startup system, which picks up that one good feature of the
> System V stuff, adds a few other goodies, and doesn't otherwise act
> like a bilge pump.
I'm not particularly familiar with the NetBSD startup system. Tell me,
does it support this slightly simplified way of restarting the network
interfaces?
I don't feel that the type of startup system I'm advocating should be
confined solely to network interfaces. One of the few things that I
really like about RedHat is the fact that I can restart nearly any
system service by issuing "/sbin/service servicename action" (where
servicename is either network, inetd etc, and action is one of start,
stop, restart etc.).
Will 5.0 incorporate this kind of startup procedure? As I've said
before, seemingly little effort is required on a per-service basis to
"enable" them for this kind of startup procedure, with so much in the
areas of ease of use to gain.
- andrew
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