Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Sun, 26 May 1996 12:03:21 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" <karl@mcs.com>
To:        dennis@etinc.com (dennis)
Cc:        amcrae@cisco.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Routers and FreeBSD (let's have a bakeoff)
Message-ID:  <m0uNjDu-000IDOC@venus.mcs.com>
In-Reply-To: <199605261551.LAA06443@etinc.com> from "dennis" at May 26, 96 11:51:11 am

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
> Just for fun though, whats the mininum cost for a unit with two 
> Fast Ethernets and a dual T1 and enough memory (at least 32
> meg) to be multi-homed running BGP4? PC cost is under
> $2500. and it does quite nicely.

Again you stack the desk.  Why?

Two T1 inbound circuits require no more than ordinary Ethernet (3MB 
aggregate total on each T1 <= ~6Mbps (nominal REAL Ethernet throughput 
under load).

I can come up with contrived examples all day.  So can you.  Why are you
doing so?  The rest of us are trying to keep away from that game.

Further, that "multi homed Pentium box" will be VERY unlikely to be able 
to survive serious convergence situations and still be forwarding packets
during the event.  It further has to handle MEDs and policy routing to 
be considered something I would recommend that anyone actually run in
a multihomed configuration (this is presuming you really want to
load-balance instead of just using one of the T1s for backup :-)

>> I consider the access stuff fairly dinky :-)
> 
> and the most lucrative.

Which is why ASCEND just blew the doors off all the access router people a
couple of months ago (the P130 again) which, dollar-for-dollar, outruns any
PC *OR* traditional router solution.

This "leapfrog" game is common in the computer industry.

> A serious router is one that carries my data. It starts in a small
> office and ends in the backbone, but there are 1000 times more
> small routers than large ones. To dismiss them as "trivial" is to
> ignore 99% of the market, which Im sure you dont want to do.
> 
> Dennis

Again, comparing a PC to a C4500 is once again biasing the equation.

Compare it against an Ascend P130, and tell me who has the best bang for 
the buck.

--
--
Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity
Modem: [+1 312 248-0900]     | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available
Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1]     | 21 Chicagoland POPs, ISDN, 28.8, much more
Fax: [+1 312 248-9865]       | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/
ISDN - Get it here TODAY!    | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed!



Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?m0uNjDu-000IDOC>