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Date:      Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush <begonia@itchy.serv.net>
To:        David Greenman <dg@root.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: help! system crashing 2-4 times a day with vinvalbuf - flush failed 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSD.3.91.960927145204.551B-100000@itchy.serv.net>
In-Reply-To: <199609251930.MAA06910@root.com>

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Are there parameters that we can change (either on the crashing server) 
or the server that the filesystem is being NFS mounted from, that might 
alleviate this problem?  

I find it peculiar that this never happened until we replaced the drive 
on the one server (our mail server) where it is performing fine but seems 
to be related to a problem on another server.  I'm really at a loss of 
what to do about this one, any suggestions would be helpful.

On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, David Greenman wrote:

> >Our server, which had been running fine for the last 7 months started 
> >crashing 2-4 times a day this week.  Today, I finally managed to see the 
> >error message echoed to the console (or part of it).
> >
> >It said:
> >
> >vinvalbuf - flush failed
> >
> >We're running FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE.  This system serves as web server and 
> >shell access server.  Usually around 6-10 people logged on, most of them 
> >reading mail and/or news.
> >
> >Things I have noticed - we've had some unkillable processes that were 
> >mail related - ie, /usr/bin/mail, pine, RMAIL, etc...   Crashes seem to 
> >happen when something like this is going on.  In the past, this had 
> >happened occascionally but never crashed the system.
> >
> >Things that have changed: our /usr/spool/mail is NFS mounted from the mail
> >server.  Earlier this week, the drive on the mail server started giving us
> >problems so we replaced it.  The mail server itself isn't having any
> >problems since we replaced the disk and is running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. 
> 
>    It's almost a sure bet that NFS is the cause, although I don't know
> precisely what would trigger something like this. NFS doesn't do any vnode
> locking, so it's easy to imagine how new buffers could get attached during
> a flush (causing the panic).
> 
> >Is this something that is fixed in 2.1.5R?  Let me know if I need to give 
> >additional information - I'm not the person who primarily does this but 
> >wanted to get started on figuring this out right away.
> 
>    If the cause is what I think it is, not likely.
> 
> -DG
> 
> David Greenman
> Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project
> 

	    Sonja Jo Krenz-Bush  ServNet/Abstract Software
	 sjkb@abstractsoft.com   http://www.serv.net/~begonia
	 ``Just another one of the flock following the herd.''




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