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Date:      Sun, 1 Dec 1996 15:33:15 -0500 (EST)
From:      Kjell E Grotland <kegrotla@korrnet.org>
To:        Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: IBM 57SLC
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.3.95.961201152553.15118B-100000@clarion.korrnet.org>
In-Reply-To: <199611261820.LAA25347@phaeton.artisoft.com>

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Thanks to all, Terry, Michael, Warner and all others who replied to my
inquiry concerning running FreeBSD on my IBM 57SLC and also concerning
running FreeBSD on a MAC PowerPC. Unfortunatly i am not as technically
literate as i would like to be but i have digested the gist of the
information (which i really appreciated receiving) and will continue
reading more to try to catch up with all the technical stuff. Where can
one get ahold of NetBSD? Again i really appreciate all of your input into
these questions of mine. Its been a while since ive been in the computer
business, almost a year now, so i am slowly loosing my knowledge base
through loss of use :-)). So please keep the information coming and ill
try assimilate it as best i can.
Thank you,
Kjell 

Kjell E. Grotland
kegrotla@korrnet.org 
Where do you seek the Beloved?

On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Terry Lambert wrote:

> > Oh by the way i have heard a rumour that MAC PowerPCs will support
> > FreeBSD. Any truth to this. That would be just totally awsome. Running
> > FreeBSD on a RISC chip machine.
> 
> Depends.
> 
> Will they ever be as documented as the Motorolla Ultra 603/604
> motherboards Soled by FirePower systems, Arrow Electronics, and
> used in Motorolla PowerStack systems?
> 
> I have been unable to get my hands on the touted-for-Linux OSF/Mach
> hardware interface so far, which is supposedly the only publically
> available "documentation".
> 
> Even so, the hardware it applies to is the new Mac's, *NOT* the 6100,
> 7100, 8100 NuBus systems.  So if you can buy it used for a resonable
> price, it won't run (ever) unless Apple documents it.
> 
> There is some indication from the NetBSD camp that the Mach code is
> (like the Tennon Systems MACH-10) running through the ROM's.
> 
> This means that the drivers are single threaded, non-reentrant, and
> a huge bottleneck to multiprocessing (hey!  Just like running MacOS
> on top of those same ROM's!).
> 
> I know I've been arguing for BIOS-based fallback drivers for PC's
> for forever, but they are not something on which one could safely
> base an entire port (yes, I know the 1.1.5 PS/2 port which was never
> released used ABIOS calls; ABIOS is not BIOS is not Mac ROM's).
> 
> Most likely I will be hacking on a BeBox after the SMP stuff is
> committed and the Intel MP spec is abstracted under a HAL used by
> the kernel (surprisingly, PPC based machines don't follow the Intel
> MP spec... go figure 8-)).
> 
> 
> 					Regards,
> 					Terry Lambert
> 					terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> or previous employers.
> 




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