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Date:      Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:16:26 +0300 (EET DST)
From:      mika ruohotie <bsdhack@shadows.aeon.net>
To:        gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ATTN Emacs users; new Zile release
Message-ID:  <199709122016.XAA26501@shadows.aeon.net>
In-Reply-To: <19970912114631.11048@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> from John-Mark Gurney at "Sep 12, 97 11:46:31 am"

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i think this should go to chat now...

> I can't use emacs... I can't remeber if the exit and save is C-x C-c or
> C-c C-x...   I could use vi better the first time I used it than I could
> emacs...

maybe we need advocacy@freebsd.org? :p

blaah, that's not too hard...

what's hard is to remember, for me, is to remember if i use uemacs or emacs,
since on some machines i have uemacs, on some emacs...

for those who dont know, emacs exits and saves with same key-set than
uemacs just exist and _doesnt_ save. i've shot myself to leg with that
multiple times lately...

and while we talk about things one does after first installation,
well, i do 'export EDITOR=uemacs', no one should be using vi anyway...

back in feb 93 when i was introduced to unix (freebsd!) all i was told
was "this is unix, type 'emacs' to write something like emails and stuff,
trn for news, just read the netetiquette first..."

rest i had to basicly snoop out by myself. uh, year later i ran a server...

those were the times. *sigh*

for the record, the introduction happened in a tech college a mile away
from other college where linus was at that time, and no, my college didnt
support _that_ os _at_ _all_! =)


mickey



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