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Date:      Sat, 4 Dec 1999 18:33:49 -0800 (PST)
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: PCI DMA lockups in 3.2 (3.3 maybe?) 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.9912041823460.94804-100000@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <199912042149.NAA57545@apollo.backplane.com>

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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

>     The later responses, mainly by existing FreeBSD people, was to 
>     essentially roast him over the coals.  By the third message the thread 
>     turned into an emotional mush, and *NONE* of it was Dennis's doing.

Since I'm one of the existing FreeBSD people you're probably referring to
here, let me remind you of the actual content:

Dennis said the following:

> The nightmare of instability of 3.x continues whilst the braintrust
> flogs away at 4.x. Its really a damn shame. And why is 3.x so much
> slower than 2.2.8?  Will 4.0 be slower yet?

Note the apparently belligerent tone, including use of emotionally charged
language and sudden change of topic. Now, when someone makes a wild,
authoritative yet unsupported statement like this, I think it's only
reasonable to ask for some evidence. If I sounded facetious when I said:

> Dennis will be able to clarify this for us all when he posts his
> benchmark specs.

it's because I hardly expected him to do so (so far, I've been correct).

However, if Dennis, or anyone else, can provide some hard data about the
relative speed of 2.x vs 3.x (I haven't seen any comparisons like this)
then there'll at least be something to work with.

Kris



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