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Date:      Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:19:45 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Huge differences in suid programs ?
Message-ID:  <v04220803b48e3ef952a1@[195.238.1.121]>
In-Reply-To: <199912271656.RAA28357@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>
References:  <199912271656.RAA28357@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>

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At 5:56 PM +0100 1999/12/27, Oliver Fromme wrote:

>  Well, the daily security script just does an "ls -l" on all
>  suid/sgid binaries and diffs them with the previous listing.

	I understand that part.

>  Therefore it will regard all differences in the ls -l output
>  as "differences".  This can be the ownership, time stamps, and
>  sizes of the files.

	I understand that part, too.

>                       Even if the actual contents of the files
>  are the same, the time stamps are not the same (because they
>  indicate the time at which the files where created), so the
>  daily security script will regard them as "different".

	My question has nothing to do with the daily security script 
noticing that things are different.  It has everything to do with why 
the binaries were replaced to begin with, if the contents of the 
binaries haven't changed.

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