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Date:      Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:17:23 +0200
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Mark.Andrews@nominum.com
Cc:        "Morten A. Middelthon" <morten@freenix.no>, stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: BIND 8.2.3-T5B in RELENG_4 source
Message-ID:  <20000705081722.R35215@daemon.ninth-circle.org>
In-Reply-To: <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org>; from Mark.Andrews@nominum.com on Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 11:47:17PM %2B1000
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007041312020.9023-100000@atreides.freenix.no> <200007041347.XAA20344@drugs.dv.isc.org>

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-On [20000705 04:01], Mark.Andrews@nominum.com (Mark.Andrews@nominum.com) wrote:
>
>> From the sources I cvsup'ed last night I got BIND 8.2.3-T5B in
>> src/contrib/bind, which is a beta version, and not recommended for
>> production use by ISC. Is this a mistake or is there some special reason
>> for it being there?
>
>	If I was picking between BIND 8.2.2 and BIND 8.2.3-T5B to
>	run I would choose BIND 8.2.3-T5B (ignoring the Windows
>	port).  At this stage there is only one pending bug fix
>	that is related to changes post BIND 8.2.2-P5 and that one
>	requires invalid answers to be sent from a master server.
>	All the remaining bug fixes address issues that are in BIND
>	8.2.2-P5 and earlier.

*nod*

>	That being said I prefer to not see beta release make it
>	into OS bases as those betas tend to hang around longer on
>	more machines as a result.

I can agree with the sentiment Mark.  However, I personally experienced
quite a few of the bugs in 8.2.2-p5 a few times.  And seeing that 8.2.3
solved these encouraged me to get it in -CURRENT.  However since
8.2.3-t5b has been rockstable for me for quite some time now and fixes
quite a few bugs which are present in 8.2.2-p5, this was a motivator for
me to give Paul Saab a yes on the Merge From CURRENT.  It is not my
intention to start spreading early beta's with the system.  I feel that
the t5b release is sufficiently close to the actual release that it
doesn't hurt the overal picture of DNS nameserving on a global scale.
And do try to stay on top of things like this. ;)

>	As someone who's job is to support/develop BIND there were
>	some beta releases that I wish I could just erase from
>	every machine on the planet.

I can imagine that.  And apologies if you feel a bit unnerving about
this.  But fortunately our release model allows for easy replacement of
older BIND versions.  People tracking STABLE and CURRENT will
automatically recompile BIND when they `make world'.  And I'll make sure
sufficient HEADS-UP will be posted on the mailinglists.

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai    asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org]
Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best  
The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>;
Als men blijft geloven kan de zwaarste steen niet zinken...


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