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Date:      Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:25:12 -0500
From:      Matthew Fuller <fullermd@linkfast.net>
To:        Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>
Cc:        Gregory Bond <gnb@itga.com.au>, stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Can we put softupdates in GENERIC install kernel?
Message-ID:  <20000712162512.C3929@linkfast.net>
In-Reply-To: <20000711213354.R4034@jade.chc-chimes.com>; from billf@chimesnet.com on Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 09:33:54PM -0400
References:  <200007120125.LAA12321@lightning.itga.com.au> <20000711213354.R4034@jade.chc-chimes.com>

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On Tue, Jul 11, 2000 at 09:33:54PM -0400, a little birdie told me
that Bill Fumerola remarked
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 11:25:43AM +1000, Gregory Bond wrote:
> > Doing installs from CD is really slow, especially the ports collection (which 
> > creates thousands of tiny files).  I've often thought that softupdates would 
> > make the install much faster, but of course the licencing issues made that 
> > impossible.
> 
> To answer this FAQ:
> 
> 	Installs (or at least the ports tree) are done mounted async, so
> any performance gain from softupdates is already obtained by mounting async.
> 
> This has been the default for a long time.

Except that using softupdates for a ports checkout is faster than using
async.  IIRC, this is because directory creation on an async filesystem
is still done synchronously.  So 'async' isn't truely 'async'.  Hence, I
see a number of things, like extracting the ports tree, and doing
buildworlds, to be faster on softupdates partitions than async.  Of
course, it'd be nice if it were otherwise, but...



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