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Date:      Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:13:07 -0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: NEWCARD success story 
Message-ID:  <200102020213.f122D8W20029@mobile.wemm.org>
In-Reply-To: <200102020028.f120S5934553@harmony.village.org> 

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Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <xzpzog6wjjo.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes:
> : Just a data point, NEWCARD is working great on my IBM ThinkPad 600E
> : with an IBM 10/100 EtherJet (really a Xircom X3201). The only thing
> : I'm missing is a daemon that can detect insertions and config up the
> : card when it's inserted, but that's not a big issue as I don't
> : normally need to remove the card - except to check what's written on
> : it when mailing -mobile about how well it works 8)
> 
> Cool!  This is the cardbus card that I keep in my desk at work for
> normal use so I don't have to drag it around from home to work.  It
> works great.
> 
> There was some momentum at BSDcon for a generic removable device
> architecture, but it seems to have died a stilbirth.  Maybe I have
> misplaced a draft that hit my mailbox during one of my massively
> overloaded phases.

IMHO, something like usbd would be a nice start, but spun off to be
generic.

We already have a notification mechanism for some of the most urgent of
this stuff - routing sockets.  There are messages when interfaces go up or
down already, there should probably be messages to say that an interaface
appeared or disappeared too.  That would be more than sufficient to do the
ifconfig/dhclient/etc stuff.  It shouldn't even be difficult to do.

Thinking about it some more, network interface config is one of the few
things that we actually need a user hookable notification on.  ATA and CAM
can (and should) self rescan - no userland intervention is required to get
those up and running.  The same pretty much goes for sio devices.  What else
is there?

> Warner

Cheers,
-Peter
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Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au
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