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Date:      Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:53:05 -0500 (EST)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
Cc:        Luigi Rizzo <luigi@info.iet.unipi.it>, Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>, Ian Dowse <iedowse@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The Project and onward [was: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c]
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1010312085059.44219A-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010312144415.B47805@daemon.ninth-circle.org>

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:

> -On [20010312 14:38], Robert Watson (rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote:
> >On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
> >
> >> We have one problem, although John Baldwin et al. have worked very hard
> >> on providing a lot of documentation for the current system under which
> >> FreeBSD works I see a distinct number of kernel hackers not being able
> >> to keep up with the recent changes. 
> >
> >In fairness to John, I think you under-emphasize this point -- as new
> >kernel APIs have been introduced in SMPng, they have been rigorously
> >documented, and as API updates have occurred, the documentation has been
> >updated in a timely and consistent manner.
> 
> Yes, I agree with your sentiment.  John has been doing an excellent job,
> as well as the others, I was merely using some situations as a jump to
> the real case. 

Yeah, I figured as much, and I don't disagree with your general point,
just with SMPng as a possible example.  I'm still hoping Adrian gets
around to finishing and committing his VFS documentation work, because
every time I deal with VFS, I have to read the kern/vfs* code, as well as
at least two file systems, to figure out what is going on, and that (to
me) points to a lack of documentation :-).  "USTL" isn't something that
one should always be proud of, especially for the various "generic"
interfaces intended at providing abstractions over a variety of
implementors.

Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
robert@fledge.watson.org      NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services



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