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Date:      Fri, 25 May 2001 08:49:05 +0200
From:      Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IPFilter not free software?
Message-ID:  <20010525084905.A94861@lpt.ens.fr>
In-Reply-To: <200105242130.OAA22615@usr05.primenet.com>; from tlambert@primenet.com on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:30:02PM %2B0000
References:  <20010524152334.K52234@lpt.ens.fr> <200105242130.OAA22615@usr05.primenet.com>

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Terry Lambert said on May 24, 2001 at 21:30:02:
> > What Stallman opposed was the "advertising clause" which said all
> > advertising materials concerning the software must mention the UCB;
> 
> No.
> 
> It said that if you mentioned features or use of the software
> in your marketing materials, you must give the authors credit.

Well, if you read it as written that's not what it says.  I
cut-and-pasted from the FreeBSD file in my earlier mail.  It says
specifically that the UCB must be given credit in all "advertising
materials" (the exact words) mentioning features and use of the
software (and what advertising material does not?)  Of course, other
authors could, and do, modify it to ask credit for themselves; this
was Stallman's problem -- such a clause, if followed strictly for
NetBSD (and presumably FreeBSD too), would require a full page of
advertisement.

If by "the software", you mean specifically that portion of FreeBSD
which the author wrote -- like Darren Reed for IPFilter -- maybe
you're saying that if he insisted on an advertising clause, you'd need
to mention him only when you mention IPFilter.  What he wrote is not
an advertising clause, but even if he had one, I doubt FreeBSD would
mention his name every time they mentioned the firewalling
capabilities of the system.  It seems to me that the clause would be
violated more often than observed, except in the specific case of
mentioning UCB.

Of course, you're free to your interpretation because I doubt lawyers
will run after you if you don't follow it to the letter.  (There is an
addendum in the FreeBSD file, of course, which says the clause has
been removed.)

- Rahul.

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