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Date:      Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:21:16 -0500
From:      Will Andrews <will@csociety.org>
To:        David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.org, kde-freebsd@lists.csociety.org
Subject:   Re: GNOME/KDE issue with disc1
Message-ID:  <20011209212116.C23826@squall.waterspout.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011209181534.B1921@dragon.nuxi.com>
References:  <20011207181333.A97777@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209012306.A96687@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209183512.1467.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20011209142050.M46667@bsd.havk.org> <20011209151048.B92399@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209192745.3597e2dc.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> <20011209181534.B1921@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 06:15:34PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> To follow up on this,
> 
> We however can do a little bit better about what KDE and GNOME bits we
> put on the first CDROM -- I got this private email (I don't believe they
> will mind if I quote part of it anonymously):

It was not a private email, it was To: kde-freebsd@lists.csociety.org
(see http://lists.csociety.org/listinfo/kde-freebsd/ for more
info) and Cc:'d to you.

Message here:

http://lists.csociety.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2001-December/000319.html

>     So far as KDE goes, it is not at all monolithic and is already quite
>     well organized into modules which are easily broken up from each
>     other.  You will get a working, if sparse, desktop including a
>     browser, file manager, and editors, with just kdelibs and kdebase
>     (and Qt of course).  
> 
>     You'll get a pretty much full featured and powerful "average joe
>     user" desktop with the addition of say, kdemultimedia and kdenetwork.    
> 
>     You could have a really quite powerful office or home office desktop,
>     by adding back the KOffice package.  I'm basing this, by the way, on
>     a general feeling of which packages KDE users find most useful - the
>     exact arrangement is what we're here to discuss.
> 
>     libs + base = 18 Mb
>     libs + base + network + multimedia = 27 Mb
>     libs + base + network + multimedia + office = 36 Mb
> 
>     Even this would be a very useful Desktop Environment, and it's half
>     the size of installing every package that's required (the script said
>     something around 79 Mb) 

The above is certainly correct.  I guess it depends on how useful
a KDE people would want from disc1.  I *will* object to removing
any more than libs+base.

Of course, if sysinstall is fixed to work with more than one CD
as far as deps go, it's all moot.  But I'm not volunteering to
fix sysinstall -- are you?

Regards,
-- 
wca

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