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Date:      Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:27:25 -0800
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Edwin Groothuis <edwin@mavetju.org>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ipfw + natd
Message-ID:  <20020129192725.O79208@blossom.cjclark.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020130125938.Y823@k7.mavetju.org>; from edwin@mavetju.org on Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 12:59:38PM %2B1100
References:  <001f01c1a906$b5cb9300$0200a8c0@mdrjr.net> <20020130123005.X823@k7.mavetju.org> <20020129175155.M79208@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020130125938.Y823@k7.mavetju.org>

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On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 12:59:38PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 05:51:55PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 12:30:05PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 06:36:46PM -0200, Mauro Dias wrote:
> > > > I'm using natd and ipfw to allow my intranet (192.168.0.0/24) to access
> > > > internet.
> > > > internet interface: rl2
> > > > intranet interface rl1
> > > > not using interface: rl0 (hehe)
> > > > 
> > > > I'm using FreeBSD-4.5RC
> > > > 
> > > > can someone tell how do i see what users in 192.168.0.0/24 are doing ?
> > > > something like netstat -M ?
> > > 
> > > If you add keep-state to your ipfw-rules you will get a line in
> > > the ipfw -a l output for every tcp connection.
> > > 
> > > Or try trafshow (don't run it as root, it's leaking descriptors). See
> > > http://www.mavetju.org/unix/tcpdumpmortals.php how to configure
> > > your system so normal users can run things like trafshow without
> > > needing root-access.
> > 
> > Nothing complicated, one just needs read access to /dev/bpf* to sniff
> > away.
> 
> Exactly. How often have users asked their administrator for the
> root-password because they didn't know this. And how many administrators
> have given them the root password because they didn't know how to
> do it properly?

For some common systems (e.g. Solaris) that don't use pcap for
sniffing, you do need root.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                     |     cjclark@alum.mit.edu
                                   |     cjclark@jhu.edu
http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/    |     cjc@freebsd.org

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