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Date:      Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:10:56 -0600
From:      "Jacques A. Vidrine" <nectar@freebsd.org>
To:        Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Heads up, a bit:  ephemeral port range changes
Message-ID:  <20020403221056.GB89405@madman.nectar.cc>
In-Reply-To: <20020403215741.L59420-100000@patrocles.silby.com>
References:  <20020403214840.GA89405@madman.nectar.cc> <20020403215741.L59420-100000@patrocles.silby.com>

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On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:00:27PM -0600, Mike Silbersack wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote:
> > Please do not change this setting in -STABLE.  Was this discussed
> > elsewhere?
> >
> > I am strongly against a change that would cause existing machines to
> > suddenly start using a different port range during a -STABLE upgrade.
> >
> Yes, I asked on -net.  All I heard was that other OSes have already made
> the switch, nothing negative.  

I don't disagree with the change itself.  I actually very often
twiddle the port range for specific applications using the
IP_PORTRANGE socket option, or for an entire system using the
net.inet.ip.portrange sysctls.

> If this really is going to cause problems,
> it's better that we find out now rather than wait until 4.6-release.  (I
> don't believe it will cause problems, in any case.)

I disagree.  Some people running -STABLE will be behind firewalls
which they don't administrate.  After updating one day [1], they may
suddenly have network applications failing in strange ways.  For some
people, it will be very hard to track down the problem.

Why do you feel you must change this in the -STABLE branch?  What
benefit is it to the users of -STABLE?

I don't object outright to merging the change during 4.6-RELEASE code
slush, although I think that it is a gratuitous change for a minor
release bump.

Cheers,
-- 
Jacques A. Vidrine <n@nectar.cc>                 http://www.nectar.cc/
NTT/Verio SME          .     FreeBSD UNIX     .       Heimdal Kerberos
jvidrine@verio.net     .  nectar@FreeBSD.org  .          nectar@kth.se

[1] Yes, I know they are supposed to read UPDATING.

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