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Date:      Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:02:50 -0800
From:      Gary Kline <kline@toxic.magnesium.net>
To:        Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@magnesium.net: failure notice]
Message-ID:  <20021211190250.GC95108@toxic.magnesium.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021211181351.GC13878@dan.emsphone.com>
References:  <20021211173426.GA93074@toxic.magnesium.net> <20021211174228.GB13878@dan.emsphone.com> <20021211175838.GA95108@toxic.magnesium.net> <20021211181351.GC13878@dan.emsphone.com>

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Dan Nelson (dnelson@allantgroup.com) wrote:

> In the last episode (Dec 11), Gary Kline said:
> > 	The thing is that when  I used mail.magnesium.net, I got
> > 	the same 553 errror.  Also, from
> > 
> > 	  http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=thought.org
> > 	
> > 	I got a FAIL on the postmaster auth entry.   
> 
> Same reason.  The FAIL on that page is because mail.speakeasy.net does
> not think it's a MX for thought.org.
> 
> > 	I did check out speakeasy.net's web site on this; it mumbled
> > 	one like about using sendmail's SASL.  --Sorry, but this is 
> > 	seriously out f my league!!  Anybody know what 'SASL' is?
> > 	(I just tweaked my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file.  It says::
> 
> That's talking about sending outgoing mail, and is to prevent spammers
> from using speakeasy's servers without authentication.  Your problem is
> with incoming mail, and requiring anyone that wants to send you mail to
> use SASL is ridiculous.
> 
> Pester Speakeasy and make sure they know you're talking about MXes for
> incoming mail.  Large ISPs usually have different machines dedicated to
> incoming vs outgoing mail.
> 


	I googled around and added the SASL lines to my ns1*.mc
	file.  But sendmail gives me warnings.  I understand Speakeasy's
	issues and policy.   Agree that for me, yes, this is 
	ridiculous.  ....

	I'm running FBSD-4.3 on my DNS server; 4.7 on "tao.thought.org";
	before I start bugging Seakeasy, it might be easier to figure
	out where the SASL stuff is.  Ideas?

	gary



-- 
Gary Kline  Seattle FBSD Users' Group (seafug)      | kline@magnesium.net
            Thought Unlimited Org                   | kline@thought.org
	    http://www.magnesium.net/~kline

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