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Date:      Fri, 07 Feb 2003 08:48:29 +0000
From:      Mark Murray <mark@grondar.org>
To:        Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The lack of common sense wrt recent issues 
Message-ID:  <200302070848.h178mTaX011012@grimreaper.grondar.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Feb 2003 23:28:22 PST." <200302070728.h177SR188905@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> 

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Dave Hayes writes:
> It seems that if someone becomes unreasonable and angry, this makes
> anything that happened before irrelevant and unassailable. Never mind
> what actually happened, apparently if someone starts posting scathing
> flames, they are automatically wrong and previous events are
> discarded.

Sort of. I believe that it is the Japanese who say that if
someone loses his temper, he automatically loses the argument.

If you can't keep control, you shouldn't be playing the game.

> Real truth is not measured by the level of anger. It's measured by
> what actually happened, which might be independent of the anger.

When anger is overwhelming, how can objective measurement work?

More objective outsiders have a (slightly) better chance, but the
person with the temper runs the very grave risk of turning many
people against him from the outset.

> The only one I've seen posting in this regard is Greg Lehey. 
> Kudos to you, sir, for recognizing that:
> 
> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.ORG> writes:
> > This has no relationship with whether your complaints are justified.
> > That's an issue which will take longer to research.
> 
> I've no clue into the politics of these situations. If this man
> and this topic is on -core, there is hope yet. 

Greg is on core, yes.

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Mark Murray
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