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Date:      Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:36:51 +0100
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        ticso@cicely.de
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: fdescfs broken? 
Message-ID:  <6578.1047652611@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:32:14 %2B0100." <20030314143213.GH83455@cicely9.cicely.de> 

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In message <20030314143213.GH83455@cicely9.cicely.de>, Bernd Walter writes:
>On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:15:49PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> In message <20030314141250.GG83455@cicely9.cicely.de>, Bernd Walter writes:
>> >The /dev/fd content looks strange:
>> >[160]cicely9# ls -al /dev/fd/
>> >total 33
>> >dr-xr-xr-x  2 root   wheel       512 Mar  6 16:59 .
>> >dr-xr-xr-x  5 root   wheel       512 Mar  6 17:00 ..
>> >crw--w----  1 ticso  tty      5,   1 Mar 14 14:50 0
>> >crw--w----  1 ticso  tty      5,   1 Mar 14 14:50 1
>> >crw--w----  1 ticso  tty      5,   1 Mar 14 14:50 2
>> >d-w-------  1 root   wheel       512 Feb 28 15:20 3
>> >d---------  1 root   wheel       512 Mar  6 16:59 4
>> 
>> What is strange about it ?
>
>After carefully rethinking - nothing.

That's why I'm against fdescfs and /dev/fd in principle:  They
are neither intuitive nor logical.

>I'd expected to see devnodes like we have without fdescfs and was
>surprised by the directories.
>I never used fdescfs before and needed /dev/fd/3 for a shell script.
>The script does not work with fdescfs, but of course this could be
>for a completly different reason.

You cannot access /dev/fd/3 until file desc #3 is actually open
so the order of arguments (and bugs in the shell) is important.

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