Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:04:04 -0700 (MST) From: "Ryan" <ryans@gamersimpact.com> To: "Kris Kennaway" <kris@obsecurity.org> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to trim the disc1 packages Message-ID: <50616.24.107.70.120.1070168644.squirrel@www2.neuroflux.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130012441.GA11695@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3FC93182.9090300@freebsd.org><20031130000320.GZ35957@elvis.mu.org> <20031130012441.GA11695@xor.obsecurity.org>
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Kris Kennaway said: > Please make concrete suggestions by looking at the > print-cdrom-packages script and the sizes of the packages on > ftp.freebsd.org. > > Kris My recommendations to remove: gimp-1.2.5 gimp-print-4.2.5 tcl-8.3.5_2 ; Why are there 2 TCL packages? tcl-8.4.4_1,1 is also included, keep the > one. linux-netscape-communicator-4.8 mozilla-1.5_1,2 netscape-remote-1.0_1 netscape-wrapper-2000.07.07 opera-7.23.20031119 xearth-1.1 pilot-link-0.11.7_2 xpdf-2.03 or acroread-5.08 Notes: - I'd say get rid of the big boys like GNOME and KDE. I'd say keep one or the other but that might cause a political battle. The only other option is both or none. - Why is gimp on the CD anyway? That doesn't really seem like an app you need to get a system up and running. - I'm guessing the 2 TCLs are included because some apps aren't compatible with one or need the other. - IMO, Don't include netscape, mozilla or opera. KDE includes Konqueror and GNOME has Nautilus(1/2). That's enough to get someone up and running and let them get to www.freebsd.org to see how to install something else. - I know this is going to cause a lot of flames but I'd say get rid of all the WMs except for something that will run fine on a 486. That gives people a package to get X working on a low-end system. The rest can be retrieved from ports/package distributions or the other CDs. They aren't taking up much space, but the bytes all add up. - I'd say (x)emacs could go as well. However, a lot of people learning UNIX use this as their first "real" (aka powerful) editor (sorry PiCo/nEdit just can't compare). I personally like vi/vim/gvim so I might be biased. - Is there some reason 2 PDF apps need to be on the first CD? Personally, I've always just installed the bare essentials to get a bootable system with the ports tree and cvsup. Anything else I build the latest port of. For that reason I might be biased when it comes to all the X apps and window managers. However, you have to admit, KDE and GNOME probably hog most of the CD. -- Ryan "leadZERO" Sommers Gamer's Impact President ryans@gamersimpact.com ICQ: 1019590 AIM/MSN: leadZERO -= http://www.gamersimpact.com =-
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